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re: Arrow: Season 3 Thread
Posted on 12/12/14 at 3:35 pm to ellunchboxo
Posted on 12/12/14 at 3:35 pm to ellunchboxo
I just felt like ollie was so out of character. He was fighting so loosely and constantly trying to attack.
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 3:48 pm to wish i was tebow
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I just felt like ollie was so out of character. He was fighting so loosely and constantly trying to attack.
My rationalization is that Ollie had to climb a mountain, strip down to his pants in freezing weather, and fight someone.
We didn't see Ras climb the mountain or, if he did climb, how long he'd been up there resting. There was also a huge crate of weapons up there, so there could've been a helicopter involved.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 4:08 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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We didn't see Ras climb the mountain or, if he did climb, how long he'd been up there resting.
Foot, Ra's ain't climbing no darn mountain. That's for the dumbasses that want to fight him. He's not stupid.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 4:55 pm to Bamatab
Doesn't Ra's always dual with no shirts? Anyways, I'm guessing Ra's tested him and plans on reviving him in the pit. Merlyn is the ultimate goal between them now.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 5:00 pm to Captain_Awesome06
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Doesn't Ra's always dual with no shirts?
Maybe a couple of times
Posted on 12/12/14 at 5:19 pm to ellunchboxo
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Eewwwwww
Giggity
What?? If watching that scene 47 times is wrong, I don't wanna be right.
Posted on 12/13/14 at 3:57 pm to Murray
Finally caught up last night. Dang, that was hard to watch. I don't fully get Merlin's motivation for having Thea kill Sara. Can someone elaborate on that a bit?
Posted on 12/13/14 at 4:05 pm to arktiger28
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Finally caught up last night. Dang, that was hard to watch. I don't fully get Merlin's motivation for having Thea kill Sara. Can someone elaborate on that a bit?
He used a drug that allowed her to be very susceptible to mind control, he had her kill Sara, and video'd it. Knowing that Ras would want Sara's killer dead and that Ollie would take the blame to stop that.
He said he did it so Ollie would have to face Ras and kill him and thus erase all of Ras blood debts but I don't buy that Merlyn thought Ollie could kill Ras. I think it was a win-win for Merlyn so why not do it.
Posted on 12/13/14 at 4:09 pm to arktiger28
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Finally caught up last night. Dang, that was hard to watch. I don't fully get Merlin's motivation for having Thea kill Sara. Can someone elaborate on that a bit?
Ra's wants Malcolm dead because of what he did with the Undertaking. Sara was in Starling City trying to 1) verify that Malcolm is truly alive since the only word of him being alive that the League has heard came from Moira, and 2) to eliminate Malcolm if he is alive. So since Sara was getting close, Malcolm had to figure out a way to get Ra's off his back. He knew he couldn't do it on his own, so he had to find a way to pit Oliver against Ra's. The only way he could get Oliver to go after Ra's was to use Thea as "motivation".
Personally I don't think we've seen the all of Malcolm's plan fulfilled yet.
This post was edited on 12/13/14 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 12/13/14 at 4:10 pm to Bamatab
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Ra's wants Malcolm dead because of what he did with the Undertaking. Sara was in Starling City trying to 1) verify that Malcolm is truly alive since the only word of him being alive that the League has heard came from Moira, and 2) to eliminate Malcolm if he is alive. So since Sara was getting close, Malcolm had to figure out a way to get Ra's off his back. He knew he couldn't do it on his own, so he had to find a way to pit Oliver against Ra's. They only way he could get Oliver to go after Ra's was to use Thea as "motivation".
That's for your explanation kicking my explanations arse.
Posted on 12/13/14 at 4:12 pm to Murray
His explanation = Ra's
Your explanation = Oliver
Your explanation = Oliver
Posted on 12/13/14 at 4:17 pm to PsychTiger
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His explanation = Ra's
Your explanation = Oliver
I know! Bama needs to come back and post some cool arabic shite to finish me off now.Posted on 12/13/14 at 4:18 pm to Murray
BTW, I think Malcolm's overall plan is to eventually force Oliver to have to team up with him in order to take Ra's down. Like you, I don't think Malcolm ever thought that Oliver stood a chance against Ra's. I think he just wanted Oliver to realize he couldn't take on Ra's (and the League) by himself, so he sent Oliver to his "death" with the intention of bringing him back so that they could take Ra's on together. That's my current theory anyways.
Posted on 12/13/14 at 5:07 pm to Bamatab
Oliver and Laurel have to get back together eventually right?
Posted on 12/13/14 at 5:21 pm to UMRealist
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Oliver and Laurel have to get back together eventually right?
If they stay true to the comics, then yes. But I have a feeling that they could stray from this comics and have Felicity be the woman he ends up with in the end.
The comic book nerd in me thinks that Oliver has to end up with Laurel because they are so tied together in the comics (probably more than any other superhero couple). But as a fan of the show, I think that Oliver has to end up with Felicity. I'm kind of conflicted on that one.
Posted on 12/13/14 at 5:23 pm to Bamatab
I'm rewatching season 1 and I think Oliver's chemistry with Laurel is a lot better than Felicity.
Posted on 12/13/14 at 5:25 pm to UMRealist
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Oliver and Laurel have to get back together eventually right?
They had great chemistry. I really wish they'd ditch this Felicity shite and head back to Laurel.
Posted on 12/13/14 at 5:31 pm to Murray
They really did Laurel's character a huge disservice during the second season.
Posted on 12/13/14 at 5:32 pm to Murray
Yeah me too.
Posted on 12/13/14 at 6:22 pm to UMRealist
The Oliver/Laurel relationship (in the show) to me is just way too toxic. As much as I dislike Laurel as a character even I think she deserved better than to have Oliver sleep with her sister which led to the breakup of her family and ultimately her sisters death. Oh and also fathering a child while he was together with her.
As for who Oliver ultimately ends up with I think it'll probably be Felicity. She has the support of the fangirls and critics and personally it just seems like a much more healthy relationship. You can argue that in the comics its Dinah/Oliver but you have to remember that their relationship is in constant flux, he cheats on her all the time, she cheats on him, Oliver has a couple of bastards running around, and ultimately they end up divorced (hell in the new52 they havnt even met each other).
It's not like there isn't precedence for Oliver ending up with the hot blonde IT girl (Smallville).
As for who Oliver ultimately ends up with I think it'll probably be Felicity. She has the support of the fangirls and critics and personally it just seems like a much more healthy relationship. You can argue that in the comics its Dinah/Oliver but you have to remember that their relationship is in constant flux, he cheats on her all the time, she cheats on him, Oliver has a couple of bastards running around, and ultimately they end up divorced (hell in the new52 they havnt even met each other).
It's not like there isn't precedence for Oliver ending up with the hot blonde IT girl (Smallville).
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