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re: "Arrival" - did I miss something or was that just a chick flic?

Posted on 3/13/17 at 8:35 am to
Posted by Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2014
1175 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 8:35 am to
***SPOILERS***

quote:

The only part that I didn't like was the random bomb plot in the middle of the movie that didn't make much sense


But the bomb plot wasn't random. Abbott and Costello knew that it was going to happen due to how they perceive time and still allowed it to happen (sacrificing one of themselves)

Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:09 am to
I loved it. Saw it three times the first week.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52213 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:35 am to
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If the aliens know when they will be in need of help, how can they not fix the problem themselves - especially if they have 1000 years to do so?


They don't "know" it's going to happen. They're living it at the same time as they are talking to the humans. That's the whole point. Time wasn't linear to them.
Posted by NEMizzou
Columbia MO
Member since Nov 2013
1372 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:53 am to
I thought it was great, but they did a crappy job of explaining time compared to the book..normally most would say that it's impossible to fit a book into a movie without cutting parts out, but the story was like 40 pages. I thought they missed out a lot on Jeremy Renner's character by making him the romantic sidekick rather than someone who actually contributed a lot to the story in the book. The math he figured out did a great job of explaining time, and that was all completely absent in the film.

Even still, it was a pretty good adaptation of a great short story, and made for what I thought was a great film. Even if **SPOILER**









it's not the ideal movie to watch with your wife of young children.
Posted by Minden tiger
Minden,Louisiana
Member since Apr 2006
3337 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:57 am to
Arrival had a message, and it stuck to that message.

Communication is important. We fear what we do not understand.

Mankind has long allowed our differences, such as skin color and language, to exist as barriers to creating a better world, when in fact, these things are trivial at best.

The aliens were a device intended to show we have valuable things to learn from even those we view as "most different" from ourselves. Amy Adams' character feared the aliens like others, but broke the barriers by offering intimacy, something as simple as an introductory handshake and smile.
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 9:58 am
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83032 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:55 pm to
I loved it. I love linguistics (was my minor, lol), and I enjoyed figuring out where the movie was going a portion of the way through. Very pleased. Amy Adams did a good job.

Music was fantastic as well.. I just have been on a La La Land kick so I am biased.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 12:00 am
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 3:43 pm to
Ok, so these advanced aliens come to earth and what happens?

Do we get faster than light travel? No .
Do we get teleportation ? No.
Do we get to learn what star system they came from ? No.

We get that some chick scientist calls up General Tso and chats to him about a #1 with combo rice.

I want my 2+ hours back.
Posted by Anthony222
London, UK
Member since Mar 2017
6 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:24 am to
In the very beginning of the film I thought that would be boring, but I was surprised how attentively I watched it. In general, I liked it, but I don't really know if I want to watch it again.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:43 am to
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The science part of it had no foundation (like in "Interstellar").


Explain...

Interstellar had some serious "science" people consulting on the plot. Obviously they had to dumb it down for an audience, but there is a lot of real scientific theory at play in it.


ETA:

And Arrival was great. People saying it wasn't a "Sci Fi" flick must want green aliens shaped like humans. I agree the "pay us back in 3000 years" was a cheap plot mechanism, but this had space ships, aliens, gravitational phenomena, etc. That's pretty science fiction to 99% of the world .

It was a great movie to me because it was an alien movie that appealed to everyone, minus super nerds. I loved it AND my wife loved it. That's tough to do in the "alien genre". Language theme was very cool, time circle theme was not original but still interesting, foreign government relations was interesting, and there was a legitimate twist in it.
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 8:49 am
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43449 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:11 am to
This movie challenged your cognitive reasoning. Clearly some in this thread need it challenged more than others.


This movie was well done. The beginning of the movie when you really have no clue what's going on with her daughter getting sick and dying you think this is laying the background to move forward into her position at first in the movie. It never really clicked in my mind until the part where they showed her daughter mentioning something about her dad and literally the only person it could be was Renner. From that point it became more about stitching things together and realizing that this woman was realizing her future and we were not looking into her past. Ergo, playing right into the frickin theme of the whole movie.

Just thinking about it makes me smile. To me this and interstellar are the reason why I enjoy movies.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:24 am to
quote:

I enjoyed it, but this part irked me. If the aliens know when they will be in need of help, how can they not fix the problem themselves - especially if they have 1000 years to do so?


By coming to earth and teaching us their language and making us indebted to them so we will one day help them... isn't that solving the problem in advance? Aren't they taking an active role in solving the problem and putting a plan into motion to solve the problem (which, incidentally, they KNOW will work)?
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