re: Arnold vs Stallone. Which has the better filmography/catalog.

Arnold's high was higher and arguably lasted longer than Stallone's high.

Peak Arnold was say 1982 Conan until 1994 True Lies, so 12 years. The summit of his high was T2 (with notable false summit Predator). Pretty remarkable stretch. But post 1994 it gets really dicey. Eraser 1996 was ok. End of Days 99 was ok. The Expendables movies are decent enough, but Sly is in those too, so they dont count. Really 1994 was about it for truly great Arnold movies.

Peak Stallone was 1976 Rocky through 1985 Rocky 4 or maybe 1988 Rambo 3, so either 9 years or MAYBE 12 years if you stretch it. Nothing in that stretch reaches T2 or Predator level in my opinion.

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post 1988 Rambo 3 you still have SO MANY bangers. Cliffhanger 1993, Demolition Man same year, Judge Dredd 1995, Cop Land 1997, Rocky Balboa 2006, Rambo 2008, Creed 2015, Creed 2 2018, I'll even throw in Last Blood because I liked it alot.

I think overall career HAS to go to Sly.

I am going to answer it this way: If one or the other had never been born, whose contributions to the film industry would have been missed the most?

I say Stallone. There is no Rocky Balboa (period) without Stallone and that’s a pretty damn big blow to the film industry. Maybe someone else would have been great as Rambo or the T-800 or other great roles of Stallone and Arnold but I favor Stallone for his writing and directing.

Rocky 1-4 is better than anything Arnold has ever done.

But as a whole i'll take Arnolds catalog.

Arnold was the better bad arse and it’s not close. As far as resume, I guess that’s subjective.

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IDK but Rocky winning Best Picture over Network, All the President's Men, and Taxi Driver is mind-blowing. To me it is up there with any of the oscar travesties. I love the series but especially Network and Taxi Driver are elite. The first hour of Rocky makes me want to nap.

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To each their own.

Rocky and Field of Dreams are my 2 all time favorites.

There is a reason why there are 5 rocky films, balboa, and the Creed spinoff.

It is timeless.

I'm surprised that Hollywood hasn't done a real Chuck Wepner movie.
Cinderella Man, The Fighter.
They could keep churning out great movies in the genre. I haven't understood where the actual biography went from Rocky.

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Rocky and Field of Dreams are my 2 all time favorites.

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The first Rocky is a classic akin to On The Waterfront.
There were so many sequels that it kind of dilutes the greatness of the original film.
Rocky became a caricature.
Kind of the same way that Elvis became a fat white-jumpsuit wearing caricature to the point where people forget what an amazing voice he had.

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Rocky became a caricature. Kind of the same way that Elvis became a fat white-jumpsuit wearing caricature to the point where people forget what an amazing voice he had.

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this is really not accurate in my opinion. go watch Rocky Balboa again (the one from 2006). that movie has a ton of heart, even if the fight part is unrealistic. Rocky 4 is probably the closest one to him being a "caricature" i guess, but it's still a pretty damn great movie and a fan favorite.

comparing him to fat Elvis is pretty far off IMO

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There were so many sequels that it kind of dilutes the greatness of the original film.

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Do you watch 2 movies simultaneously?
I don't see how a sequel dilutes or hurts a prior movie. Only the sequel could be hurt.

For what it's worth, rocky balboa is a great movie in part to how it tied together with the original movie.
None of the other sequels really did that. It doesn't affect the original. But the other sequels lacked opportunity that was grabbed with the balboa release.

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And kids today can question if the story holds up or not with its montages.

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kids today can frick right off if they dont like a Rocky training montage.

Arnold has a higher number of top tier movies than Sly but Stallone has a more varied filmography which makes it easier to put something on for any mood. A few comedies aside, many of which were action oriented, Arnold wasn't ever given too many chances to stretch himself as an actor beyond being an action star while Stallone has more dramatic stuff like Cop Land, Rocky, Rocky Balboa, and Tulsa King on his resume.

That said, I think given the right script Arnold could actually be decent in a more dramatic role as he has some nice moments in movies like Twins, Kindergarten Cop, and Maggie.