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re: Are the networks going to force us all into pirating again?
Posted on 11/6/17 at 1:55 pm to musick
Posted on 11/6/17 at 1:55 pm to musick
their animation is also on point
How to train your dragon series
Seven deadly sins anime
New voltron series
For every flop series Netflix has they seem to put out five gems. I find myself more and more just dropping the regular shows leaving Netflix because they have almost enough original content to keep me watching all year long.
How to train your dragon series
Seven deadly sins anime
New voltron series
For every flop series Netflix has they seem to put out five gems. I find myself more and more just dropping the regular shows leaving Netflix because they have almost enough original content to keep me watching all year long.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 2:10 pm to FalseProphet
I've been saying for years that a la carte will end up being something everyone loathes b/c we will end up paying more for less.
Get ready y'all b/c it's only going to get more fragmented, more annoying, and more expensive.
Eventually you'll see people wondering why there isn't a service that bundles everything together. The sweet irony will be that is what we already have with cable and satellite that these same people are dumping b/c they think they can somehow get EVERYTHING for cheaper if they just buy it all individually.
Get ready y'all b/c it's only going to get more fragmented, more annoying, and more expensive.
Eventually you'll see people wondering why there isn't a service that bundles everything together. The sweet irony will be that is what we already have with cable and satellite that these same people are dumping b/c they think they can somehow get EVERYTHING for cheaper if they just buy it all individually.
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 11/6/17 at 2:14 pm to mindbreaker
Plenty of families are cord cutters. Netflix still has tons of cartoons & kid shows. I think we focus too much on adult dramas & comedies.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 2:46 pm to Ghost of Colby
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Plenty of families are cord cutters. Netflix still has tons of cartoons & kid shows. I think we focus too much on adult dramas & comedies.
This. I'll keep my $10 Netflix as long as there are kid shows on there.
And in the theme of pirating, DisneyJr app and probably others just axed Comcast/Xfinity from their provider list. I borrowed my dad's log in so my kids can watch Mickey and it was acting funny the other day. Realized it was a provider issue and when I attempted to log back in, I got the message. Oh well, just used a DirecTV log in instead. Arrrrrggghhh.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 2:46 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Cord cutting is not some magic solution to save that much money if you want to keep the same content legally.
Completely true. If you really want to cut the cord and save money, you have to take a reduction in content. I’m fine with that, and I’m also fine with illegally streaming things. But cutting the cord and getting streaming services isn’t a long term solution to save money and still get the same amount of content. The networks have caught on
Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:21 pm to FalseProphet
The new Star Trek series is fricking awesome. Through its limited run so far its already my second favorite ST series, although a very distant second the TNG.
That said, I'm still sure af not going to pay the $7 or $8 or whatever a month just for that one show because its only available through their new streaming app. I've gone through a couple of 1 week free trials to keep watching. But nothing else they have is worth paying for, hell I'd almost pay a monthly fee just to NOT watch "Young Sheldon".
CBS thinks they're going to use Star Trek: Discovery to sell their streaming app, but in reality they're just going to end up killing off another great sci-fi series before its time by mishandling it and it's really sad
That said, I'm still sure af not going to pay the $7 or $8 or whatever a month just for that one show because its only available through their new streaming app. I've gone through a couple of 1 week free trials to keep watching. But nothing else they have is worth paying for, hell I'd almost pay a monthly fee just to NOT watch "Young Sheldon".
CBS thinks they're going to use Star Trek: Discovery to sell their streaming app, but in reality they're just going to end up killing off another great sci-fi series before its time by mishandling it and it's really sad
Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:36 pm to Dr RC
Eh. I'd rather cut out the crap that's on cable. There's so much stuff that i have absolutely no interest in. I don't need to watch that much TV that I am going to need to subscribe to all of these streaming services. If anything I'll switch between them if one has a show I really want to watch.
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:38 pm to FalseProphet
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Isn't that defeating the whole point and counter-intuitive?
The point for the networks is to make money. Thanks to Netflix/Hulu/Amazon they realize how important it is to control your shows streaming rights. In an era of cord cutters owning a streaming library is what is important, it's why Netflix is making so many shows now.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:52 pm to FalseProphet
So much wrong with your post. Stop stealing
Posted on 11/6/17 at 9:54 pm to FalseProphet
I don't understand. Capitalism is somehow forcing you to acquire a non-essential product illegally? How does that work, exactly?
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:06 pm to randomways
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I don't understand. Capitalism is somehow forcing you to acquire a non-essential product illegally? How does that work, exactly?
You do understand, and it’s disengenious to say you don’t. Capitalism bred a major niche market that millions of people bought into. Now, others are trying to get into the system, all at the expense at the average user.
When capitalism fails the average person, they seek other methods of obtaining low cost, quality entertainment.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:26 pm to FalseProphet
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You do understand, and it’s disengenious to say you don’t. Capitalism bred a major niche market that millions of people bought into. Now, others are trying to get into the system, all at the expense at the average user.
When capitalism fails the average person, they seek other methods of obtaining low cost, quality entertainment.
Capitalism has failed the average person by running ads during TV shows, as was the case for virtually 95% of TV for more than a half-century? Your complaint isn't that they failed you, your complaint is that they aren't working with competitors to make life more convenient for you. Nobody is "forcing" you to do anything whatsoever. You're forcing yourself to consider the products indispensable. Keep in mind, pirating requires effort too. You're not objecting to the effort -- you obviously consider it a reasonable price to pay to get to watch what you want, else you wouldn't bother pirating. You're objecting to the networks trying to make a profit in the way they see most fit.
If their business structure fails, they'll pay the price. That's their problem. If it doesn't, then they correctly gauged what the marketplace will accommodate. I can only assume you're very young -- nothing here is in any way outrageous considering that the variety that we enjoy now comes at a price. The lack of variety that once marked the broadcasting industry was simpler, to be sure, but, well, lacking in variety.
Edited to fix an errant "your/you're" problem.
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:47 pm to Peazey
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Eh. I'd rather cut out the crap that's on cable. There's so much stuff that i have absolutely no interest in. I don't need to watch that much TV that I am going to need to subscribe to all of these streaming services. If anything I'll switch between them if one has a show I really want to watch.
I understand that there are tons of things on a cable package that I'm never going to watch or care to even give a chance but the thing is all that shite I don't want to watch subsidizes the shows I do want to see.
That's why it's such a big deal for a channel to get into the basic tier of packages. Once they get in there they get a ton more money which gives them the opportunity to attempt to branch out with shows they may not otherwise have the ability to produce.
The entire reason we have been going through a new golden age of TV is because of the subscriber fees which make it possible to attempt different kinds of shows that otherwise might be deemed too financially risky to create.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:15 pm to randomways
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Your complaint isn't that they failed you, your complaint is that they aren't working with competitors to make life more convenient for you
A valid complaint is that the desire to control content is not serving consumers. Disney wants to buy Fox. Not all of it because they know regulators would stop that. They just want to walk as close as they can to the monopoly line so they’ll have enough exclusive content to create yet another service people will feel the need to subscribe to.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:24 pm to TigerinATL
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A valid complaint is that the desire to control content is not serving consumers. Disney wants to buy Fox. Not all of it because they know regulators would stop that. They just want to walk as close as they can to the monopoly line so they’ll have enough exclusive content to create yet another service people will feel the need to subscribe to.
Monopolies are a different beast, and, barring some extremely compelling reason -- national security, clear-and-present danger, etc -- making a complaint against them is, as you say, a valid complaint. What seems to be bothering the OP is pretty much the exact opposite of a monopoly -- companies and networks structuring their own profit matrix rather than cohering under a single umbrella. It's certainly a philosophically-valid argument to suggest giving Netflix (or any particular service) broad control of the means of dissemination for a significant portion of the media is a very real monopolistic threat. Diversified sources of media have always been a good thing.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:30 pm to FalseProphet
If you pull your content from Netflix, good for you, I'll watch something else. I have Direct Tv Now and Netflix, I'm not spending anymore money on tv or streaming.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:25 am to FalseProphet
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Now, you have major networks either pulling their content from Netflix in favor of either Hulu, which is largely ad-based, or in favor of their own subscription-based services.
Isn't that defeating the whole point and counter-intuitive?
Defeating what point? They streamed their programming through Netflix because Netflix paid them. Now they can stream it themselves and get paid without a middle-man.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:29 am to Upperdecker
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just to draw the Trek fans to pay $6 a month directly to CBS in order to watch ONE show.
You can pay $6 for one month and stream the entire series. You can also rationalize that one $6 payment by watching all of the other Star Trek series that are there, or Twin Peaks, or Wings, Mission Impossible, the original Hawaii Five-O, or any of the other series that they offer.
Or you can pay $12 to see one Star Wars movie (which no one seems to complain about).
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:03 am to FalseProphet
So we're just basically shifting our cable bill over to streaming after we thought we had gotten rid of it for something cheaper?
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:31 am to Sentrius
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So we're just basically shifting our cable bill over to streaming after we thought we had gotten rid of it for something cheaper?
How was the outcome ever supposed to be different?
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