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Posted on 1/29/25 at 11:18 am to Green Chili Tiger
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It has a $180 million budget.
My bad; I hadn't kept up and just now seeing the released numbers.
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Captain Marvel did over $1.1 Billion against a budget of $152 million.
I wasn't counting that one simply because it fell between Infinity War and Endgame... considering how much The Marvels took in, I don't consider it worth noting in the trend but take it as you like.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 11:26 am to Saint Alfonzo
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The part where he says "Captain America represents a lot of different things, and I don’t think the term ‘America’ should be one of those representations." If this is what he believes, maybe he shouldn't be playing Captain America. Is there a Captain Universal Characteristics he can play?
The dude was speaking in the moment. Do you think everyone mold words together to express what they mean in the correct way ALL THE TIME?
He has come back and clarified what he meant and people in here are still complaining.
Sometimes we all need to take a step back and look in the mirror before trying to judge others to such a fine degree.
John 8:7. Even if you’re not religious, still a great value to live by.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 11:37 am to Green Chili Tiger
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and this was Chris Evan's back in 2011 promoting Captain America: The First Avenger:
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“Ha, well, to me, I'm not trying to get too lost in the American side of it. This isn't a flag waving movie. It is red, white and blue, but it just so happens that the character was created in America during war time, when there was a common enemy, even though it is Captain America. I've said before in interviews, it feels more like he should just be called Captain Good. [Laughs] You know, he was created at a time when there was this undeniable evil and this guy was kind of created to fight that evil. I think that everyone could agree that Nazis were bad and he, Cap, just so happens to wear the red, white and blue.”
This is hilarious. I wonder if Chris Evans wanting Captain America to be called Captain Good means he's a racist.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 11:45 am to RLDSC FAN
Even the wokest of the woke would have to admit how stupid some of there comrades in Hollywood are.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 12:12 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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I wonder if Chris Evans wanting Captain America to be called Captain Good means he's a racist.
Obviously it doomed the character and Disney from ever making a profit from the character.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 12:30 pm to iwyLSUiwy
He’s literally laughing when he made the comment
Posted on 1/29/25 at 12:39 pm to Madking
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He’s literally laughing when he made the comment
He was laughing about Captain Good, but he obviously had meaning behind it. Hence what he said right before that...
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I'm not trying to get too lost in the American side of it. This isn't a flag waving movie.
I didn't think what Mackie originally said was smart at all. But people apparently didn't care at all when Evans said something similar.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 12:44 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Not the same that’s why
Posted on 1/29/25 at 12:53 pm to Madking
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Not the same that’s why
Which part isn't the same? The message or the messenger?
Posted on 1/29/25 at 12:54 pm to Green Chili Tiger
One guy says the character isn’t necessarily America only the other is saying he shouldn’t represent America because America has no honor or integrity. If you cant tell the difference it’s because you’re being dishonest.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 12:58 pm to Madking
I mean of course you're not going to view it the same if you want to be mad at one person and call them a racist but not be mad at the other. White guy says it's not about America, who cares. Black guy says it's not about America, he's racist. Both of them sound dumb but they also both just sound like they are catering their message to who they are talking to.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 12:58 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Has nothing to do with the messenger. I think Chris Evans is scum but the fact is what they said isn’t remotely the same thing.
This post was edited on 1/29/25 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 1/29/25 at 12:58 pm to iwyLSUiwy
But I didn’t do that so again you’re being dishonest
Posted on 1/29/25 at 1:01 pm to Madking
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the other is saying he shouldn’t represent America because America has no honor or integrity
Wat? No he didn't.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 1:05 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Are we doing semantics now? Thats funny since you guys are constantly making false accusations and putting words in people’s mouths. It’s about what I expect though
Posted on 1/29/25 at 1:09 pm to Madking
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Are we doing semantics now?
Semantics? Are you stupid or something?
At no point does he say or imply that America has no honor or integrity.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 1:11 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Well if you’re dishonest enough to suggest both statements are the same you’re definitely dishonest enough to lie about what Mackie was saying or suggesting so again I don’t expect anything else from you.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 1:23 pm to Madking
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Well if you’re dishonest enough to suggest both statements are the same
No one said they're identical, but they are both, very obviously, saying the the America in Captain America is one of the least important parts of the character.
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“Captain America represents a lot of different things and I don’t think the term, you know, ‘America’ should be one of those representations. It’s about a man who keeps his word, who has honor, dignity, and integrity. Someone who is trustworthy and dependable.”
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“Ha, well, to me, I'm not trying to get too lost in the American side of it. This isn't a flag waving movie. It is red, white and blue, but it just so happens that the character was created in America during war time, when there was a common enemy, even though it is Captain America. I've said before in interviews, it feels more like he should just be called Captain Good. [Laughs] You know, he was created at a time when there was this undeniable evil and this guy was kind of created to fight that evil. I think that everyone could agree that Nazis were bad and he, Cap, just so happens to wear the red, white and blue.”
How you can't see that is absolutely incredible.
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you’re definitely dishonest enough to lie about what Mackie was saying or suggesting
I'm not the one that tried to insert a giant, non-existent, "BECAUSE" in Mackie's comments.
Mackie's comments:
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“Captain America represents a lot of different things and I don’t think the term, you know, ‘America’ should be one of those representations. It’s about a man who keeps his word, who has honor, dignity, and integrity. Someone who is trustworthy and dependable.”
Your version of Mackie's comments:
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he other is saying he shouldn’t represent America because America has no honor or integrity.
Who's the one being dishonest here?
Posted on 1/29/25 at 1:25 pm to iwyLSUiwy
The difference was when that movie came out Disney/Marvel weren't up to their ears in flops due to The Message/virtue signalling. Now that audiences have had a decade's worth of lecturing rubbed in their faces, they are much more sensitive to it and tired of it. Also, there is the obvious fact that Evans looks like Captain America. Mackie, whether his fault or not, just looks like yet another example of stale Hollywood race-swapping to push an agenda. So, yeah, reactions are going to be different.
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