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re: Anne Hathaway cast in The Dark Knight Rises.....
Posted on 1/21/11 at 8:50 am to SJS Eagle 85
Posted on 1/21/11 at 8:50 am to SJS Eagle 85
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I've never found it "'dark' to the point of silliness". There have been several moments of levity in both of Nolan's Batman flicks. I really like the banter between Bale and Caine as well as Bale and Oldman. Anything past that would threaten the serious and dark tone which is what Batman is all about. The majority of these characters are born out of trajedy. Making it more palatable by injecting more humor would be turning their backs on the essence of this series and what has made it successful. Basically, it would become the X-Men...a fricking joke.
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Posted on 1/21/11 at 5:50 pm to Freauxzen
My problem with Bane is that he always seemed so easy to beat. I don't know how the hell he broke the bats back. In subsequent books, he was stopped by something as simple as a batarang to the back of the headset/ cords. The guy has exposed juice/ "venom" cords. Also, I just can't see how they are going to depict said cords in Nolan's Batworld.
ETA: Anne Hathaway SUCKS
ETA: Anne Hathaway SUCKS
Posted on 1/21/11 at 5:56 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
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Also, I just can't see how they are going to depict said cords in Nolan's Batworld.
My guess is they won't, but we'll see. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not convinced they even need to have him taking/injecting anything to make him stronger. He could just be a big guy, or they could go with steroids if they really want something but I don't think it is necessary.
I had no idea there was so much hate for Anne Hathwaway.
This post was edited on 1/21/11 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 1/21/11 at 6:12 pm to NOSA
I love how some people are assuming that Anne Hathaway is definitely appearing as Catwoman. These will be the same people that are mad/disappointed when she doesn't.
FWIW, when Nolan talked about Tom Hardy being cast, he referred to him being cast as Bane. When he referred to Anne Hathaway being cast, he referred to her being cast as Selina Kyle.
FWIW, when Nolan talked about Tom Hardy being cast, he referred to him being cast as Bane. When he referred to Anne Hathaway being cast, he referred to her being cast as Selina Kyle.
Posted on 1/21/11 at 6:15 pm to GamecockAlum
Tom Hardy better be bulking back up to his Charles Bronson size if he's going to be playing Bane.
Posted on 1/21/11 at 6:15 pm to TulaneTigerFan
Roids brah
Posted on 1/21/11 at 6:47 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
I think Bane has potential as long as they don't portray him as a mindless buffoon.
Maybe an injection type thing, maybe he has some terminal sickness that he takes it for to try and keep him alive?
Maybe an injection type thing, maybe he has some terminal sickness that he takes it for to try and keep him alive?
Posted on 1/21/11 at 6:59 pm to NOSA
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My guess is they won't, but we'll see. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not convinced they even need to have him taking/injecting anything to make him stronger. He could just be a big guy, or they could go with steroids if they really want something but I don't think it is necessary.
Then what is the point of calling him Bane? In all of Bane's renditions, his number one defining quality has been addiction to "venom". Bane without the juice, is not Bane.
Posted on 1/21/11 at 7:00 pm to MagillaGuerilla
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Maybe an injection type thing, maybe he has some terminal sickness that he takes it for to try and keep him alive?
Typically, the injections are required to keep him alive. So, watching a non-pump system Bane shoot up constantly sounds just as dumb.
Posted on 1/21/11 at 7:02 pm to GamecockAlum
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I love how some people are assuming that Anne Hathaway is definitely appearing as Catwoman. These will be the same people that are mad/disappointed when she doesn't.
I don't assume that she is. I do assume that Anne Hathaway SUCKS though. I for one do not see the sex appeal, but I didn't see it in Maggie G. either. Different strokes, I guess.
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When he referred to Anne Hathaway being cast, he referred to her being cast as Selina Kyle.
Great, I hope she doesn't don the suit. However, if she does or doesn't, does NOT change the fact that I do not like her ---> . yes, PERIOD
ETA: shite, I forgot about Rahel Getting Married and Devil Wears Prada. She totally, like, kicked arse in those movies.
ETA3: and no, Anne did not frick my girlfriend.
This post was edited on 1/21/11 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 1/21/11 at 7:12 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
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Then what is the point of calling him Bane? In all of Bane's renditions, his number one defining quality has been addiction to "venom". Bane without the juice, is not Bane.
And what's the point of casting Selina Kyle if you aren't using Catwoman?
These things are why Talia and Black Mask were just better choices.
Posted on 1/21/11 at 7:28 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
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I do assume that Anne Hathaway SUCKS though.
Bit extreme. She has only been in one movie that I had interest in or was even for my demographic and she was alright in it (Get Smart). I'll wait until I actually see the movie before I cast judgment.
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but I didn't see it in Maggie G.
No one did because she is not attractive at all.
Posted on 1/21/11 at 7:29 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
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ypically, the injections are required to keep him alive. So, watching a non-pump system Bane shoot up constantly sounds just as dumb.
But in the sense he took it to stay alive, not that he fact he needs to keep using it to stay alive.
Like everyone else, I'm just trying to comprehend how Nolan would go about it. It has me giddy, yet hesitant at the same time...
Posted on 1/21/11 at 7:30 pm to Freauxzen
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And what's the point of casting Selina Kyle if you aren't using Catwoman?
What's the point in having Batman if you aren't going to have Robin?
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These things are why Talia and Black Mask were just better choices.
Based on what? Your opinion? No thanks.
FWIW, Eva Green was cast as Talia ah-Gul.
Posted on 1/21/11 at 7:34 pm to Freauxzen
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And what's the point of casting Selina Kyle if you aren't using Catwoman?
IDK, maybe the story would not get to that point. Maybe Nolan would only use the name, not the character. FWIW, I agree with you; however, he did say no Catwoman and the release did say Selina Kyle, not Catwoman. So, I really don't know. Or maybe he goes this route:
LINK
I do know the release said Anne Hathaway, no thanks. It also said, Bane. Not Antonio Diego, or whatever Bane's real name is. It did not say a character like Bane, or Bane as a boy. It said Bane. I am not C. Nolan, but I just can not envisions Bane in this Gotham.
Again, I trust Nolan, but this news is less than exciting.
Posted on 1/21/11 at 8:13 pm to GamecockAlum
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What's the point in having Batman if you aren't going to have Robin?
Batman has existed without Robin during many storylines.
Baner has never NOT had Venom. Catwoman has never not been a thief.
I'm not saying changing what a character does is out of the question (see my Ventriloquist idea), but these are two odd characters to do that with.
I was just reversing the question on him since he was justifying one and not the other.
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Based on what? Your opinion? No thanks.
Eh, they just had better narrative options. And more fluid characters to fit in to Nolan's world.
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FWIW, Eva Green was cast as Talia ah-Gul.
Isn't this still rumor?
Posted on 1/21/11 at 9:13 pm to Freauxzen
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And what's the point of casting Selina Kyle if you aren't using Catwoman?
This is the main problem with using Selina in what we know is the final movie. Aside from her very first appearance, Selina has been Catwoman, and if you have just Selina and not Catwoman, then what's the point of using her vs. using Vicki Vale, or Silver St. Cloud, or, the better choice, Talia. Using Selina only in this film would/could work better if we were getting a 4th film where her story into becoming Catwoman could be told.
This post was edited on 1/21/11 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 1/21/11 at 9:19 pm to Freauxzen
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What's the point in having Batman if you aren't going to have Robin?
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Batman has existed without Robin during many storylines.
You said it before I could. Aside from his early appearances before Robin was created, Batman has operated numerous times in the comics without Robin, notably in the 70s when Dick Grayson was more active in the Teen Titans, following the death of Robin II in the late 1980s, and during sporadic times during the 90s/00s. And Batman not having Robin isn't like having Selina without Catwoman. The better analogy would be using Dick Grayson (or Jason Todd or Tim Drake) and not using Robin.
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Bane has never NOT had Venom. Catwoman has never not been a thief.
This isn't correct. Following Bane's first big story, Knightfall (where he broke Batman's back), he actually spent the rest of the 90s and 00s specifically NOT using Venom. The cartoons are where he kept using. One of the first big post-Knightfall stories with Bane actually had him, off of Venom, teaming with Ra's al Ghul and being chosen to be his new heir and he was then bequeathed to Talia.
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FWIW, Eva Green was cast as Talia ah-Gul.
Link? Because if Hathaway was cast as Selina, that means that Talia was never in the script, so no one would have been cast as her. Though I will admit Green as Talia (or as Selina, to be honest) would have been damn good-plus, it would have left Hathaway still open to play Lois Lane
This post was edited on 1/21/11 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 1/21/11 at 10:46 pm to PattyRay38
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g Vicki Vale
is in the movie fwiw.
I'll wait until I at least see a trailer before I say Hathaway as Selina Kyle (and potentially as Catwoman) is a bad idea.
FWIW, I did read an article that came out around The Dark Knight's release that included a quote from Nolan saying that he would not have Catwoman in any of his Batman movies (along with Robin, Penguin, and Mr. Freeze).
Posted on 1/22/11 at 7:37 am to PattyRay38
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This isn't correct. Following Bane's first big story, Knightfall (where he broke Batman's back), he actually spent the rest of the 90s and 00s specifically NOT using Venom.
Yeah, I read this on his wiki page. I can't seem to find an image of him during this period. Did he still don his mask? This is the best I could find, that might be it. Also, shortly after that arc, he gets back on some super venom.
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