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American Sniper movie discussion thread (No book talk, no political bickering)

Posted on 1/19/15 at 4:57 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 1/19/15 at 4:57 pm
This thread is for those who saw the movie and want to discuss it. Please keep any discussion of Kyle's book, purported lies in his book, or other petty bickering in the other thread or on Poli Talk.

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I enjoyed the movie as I've stated before.

Didn't even notice the baby being fake and don't think that the baby being fake is all that important to the overall theme of the movie.

Lots of feels during and after the movie. Quality war film overall that did a great job of evoking the intended emotions.
Posted by GrunT23
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/19/15 at 5:05 pm to
I posted this in the other thread but it was obviously drowned out by the bullshite.

quote:

That wounded vet at the end that went shooting with Kyle was a Bossier City native and was in my platoon in Iraq. He actually adlibbed that line "Who's the legend now?"



CSB
This post was edited on 1/19/15 at 5:08 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 1/19/15 at 5:09 pm to
I saw it and think I gave you an upvote.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
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Posted on 1/19/15 at 5:15 pm to
Almost started this thread when I opened this shite show of a thread after watching this movie last night. I really enjoyed it. I can't believe I didn't realize that Sienna Miller played his wife until the credits. Her hair threw me off.

I will say that I was bored for a few moments here and there. I have a really hard time staying engaged in movies with tons of action though, so that's probably a personal problem. I did notice the fake baby for sure. The way he held it, the baby would have to be a genetic freak to keep its head up.

I thought it ended really well. I didn't want to have to watch the veteran kill him. And video footage of people lining the streets for our soldiers always gets me.

I'm not super familiar with the story. How accurate is the Mustafa stuff? Did he really have a rival sniper out there?

ETA: Found this...

quote:

Is the enemy sniper Mustafa based on a real person?
Yes, but he holds far less significance in the book, at least in relation to Chris Kyle. In the movie, Chris Kyle (Bradley Cooper) engages in a film-long pursuit of an enemy Syrian sniper named Mustafa (Sammy Sheik), whom the American soldiers refer to as "Kaiser F—in' Söze." In Kyle's autobiography, the enemy Iraqi sniper Mustafa is only mentioned in passing in a single paragraph. He is described as "an Olympics marksman who was using his skills against Americans and Iraqi police and soldiers."


Did Chris really kill the enemy sniper Mustafa?
No. In reality, Chris Kyle never actually encountered the enemy Iraqi sniper Mustafa, who he believes was killed by other U.S. snipers. Chris does make a 2,100-yard shot in the book, but it was to take out a random combatant on a rooftop who was about to fire an RPG at an Army convoy. "It was my longest confirmed kill in Iraq," writes Chris, "even longer than that shot in Fallujah."
This post was edited on 1/19/15 at 5:22 pm
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 1/19/15 at 5:18 pm to
I just googled a history vs. hollywood write-up, and this actor looks exactly like the real guy. Holy shiz.

Actor


Real guy
Posted by GrunT23
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/19/15 at 5:28 pm to
I didn't read the book but what I probably think happened is that Kyle and his buddies created the myth of Mustafa. There would be no way to know it was actually him in most of those engagements. I'm sure there was some real Intel that there was a Syrian guy running around who was really good but they probably buit him up in their heads more than anything. Like the guy giving the brief before the final mission said

"He can be whoever the frick you need him to be. Just get him."
Posted by flvelo12
Palm Harbor, Florida
Member since Jan 2012
3314 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 5:36 pm to
Played "himself'

It is the same guy.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 1/19/15 at 5:40 pm to
That makes sense.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/19/15 at 5:40 pm to
quote:

(No book talk, no political bickering)


Posted by flvelo12
Palm Harbor, Florida
Member since Jan 2012
3314 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 5:44 pm to
As I stated in earlier post:

I viewed American Sniper thru the prism of a flawed human being who seemed to care about his country and his fellow soldiers. I would also believe that someone who has gone thru 4 tours and had 160+ confirmed kills that PTSD could be an issue, and I believe movie conveyed the problems & emotions in his life because of this. I believe he had issues, but I enjoyed the story and film very much. And yes, I am very thankful for the men & women who serve our country.




The feels in the packed theater today were palpable.

Agreeing with the sentiment of LSUJuicer:

quote:

It was a very powerful movie and watching the crowds reaction after was proof of that. People can bash this movie all they want but I have never seen an entire theater so affected by a movie after it ended.




This post was edited on 1/19/15 at 5:47 pm
Posted by Ivan The Terrible
Member since Jul 2013
144 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

Quality war film overall that did a great job of evoking the intended emotions.



I have a hard time calling this a quality war film. The beginning of the film ran smooth. But around the middle things started to become choppy. IMO it's not on par with films like Zero Dark Thirty or The Hurt Locker. I can also think of other war films from this year that are a lot more intense than this ['71 & Fury].

Also, I have a hard time overlooking the fake baby deal. In this day and age you should be able to do better than that.
Posted by ksliman
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 1/19/15 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

That wounded vet at the end that went shooting with Kyle was a Bossier City native and was in my platoon in Iraq. He actually adlibbed that line "Who's the legend now?"


Thank you both for your service!!!
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25849 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 5:57 pm to
quote:

Zero Dark Thirty


In comparison I felt less attached to the guys in that movie. I certainly did enjoy it but once the fighting began the rest of the movie was just a running gun battle and not much else.

As for AS, I think someone mentioned it in the other thread but Cooper did do a great job getting in his character to the point where you forget that he is Bradley Cooper, a celebrity. (In comparison, I love the Rock, love some his movies.. but every time I see him on screen I think "there's the Rock")
Posted by flvelo12
Palm Harbor, Florida
Member since Jan 2012
3314 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 5:57 pm to
FAKE BABY REASONING?

quote:

Basically, film professionals know that Eastwood likes to move fast on movie sets and recognize that he took the easy and less expensive route of using a fake baby — not even animatronic — that Cooper had to move himself to make it look lifelike!" says longtime film columnist Anne Thompson, the author of The $11 Billion Year: From Sundance to the Oscars, an Inside Look at the Changing Hollywood System.
Posted by flvelo12
Palm Harbor, Florida
Member since Jan 2012
3314 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 5:59 pm to
quote:

As for AS, I think someone mentioned it in the other thread but Cooper did do a great job getting in his character to the point where you forget that he is Bradley Cooper, a celebrity


I thought Cooper nailed the role.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28254 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

Basically, film professionals know that Eastwood likes to move fast on movie sets and recognize that he took the easy and less expensive route of using a fake baby — not even animatronic — that Cooper had to move himself to make it look lifelike!" says longtime film columnist Anne Thompson, the author of The $11 Billion Year: From Sundance to the Oscars, an Inside Look at the Changing Hollywood System.


I wanna say BC talked about this on Stern last week. He said Eastwood moves FAST. Like, "alright, first take was good...guess we'll get a second so they won't bitch or in case we missed something...then we're done." Cooper said it was crazy.
Posted by Ivan The Terrible
Member since Jul 2013
144 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 6:05 pm to
How did you feel about The Hurt Locker?

quote:

As for AS, I think someone mentioned it in the other thread but Cooper did do a great job getting in his character to the point where you forget that he is Bradley Cooper, a celebrity. (In comparison, I love the Rock, love some his movies.. but every time I see him on screen I think "there's the Rock")

I thought Cooper did an amazing job in his role.
Posted by flvelo12
Palm Harbor, Florida
Member since Jan 2012
3314 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

I wanna say BC talked about this on Stern last week. He said Eastwood moves FAST. Like, "alright, first take was good...guess we'll get a second so they won't bitch or in case we missed something...then we're done." Cooper said it was crazy.


Classic. Go Clint!
Posted by The Ostrich
Member since May 2009
2541 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 6:30 pm to
kind of reminded me of the battles between Vassli and the fictional sniper in enemy at the gates but i didn't get that vibe in the book
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35252 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 6:33 pm to
quote:

I enjoyed the movie as I've stated before.

Didn't even notice the baby being fake and don't think that the baby being fake is all that important to the overall theme of the movie.

Lots of feels during and after the movie. Quality war film overall that did a great job of evoking the intended emotions.
It was a really good movie, but that was the most obvious fake baby I've seen in a movie since Braindead.
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