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re: American Nightmare — Netflix documentary
Posted on 1/23/24 at 8:25 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 1/23/24 at 8:25 pm to Big Scrub TX
The #1 lesson I’ve always been taught is NEVER COMPLY with a criminal.
Gun to your face, give me your wallet…maybe.
Get in the car, let me tie you up, etc…FIGHT every time.
Gun to your face, give me your wallet…maybe.
Get in the car, let me tie you up, etc…FIGHT every time.
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 9:00 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Haven’t finished the first episode but I can almost hear the raging erection that this reporter/journalist has over the case. It’s kinda disgusting to be honest.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 9:18 pm to BabyTac
quote:Maybe?
Gun to your face, give me your wallet…maybe.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 9:53 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
I caught the last half of the documentary. Did they say how Muller got into the home?
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:47 pm to SmokinBurger
I was waiting for them to say they found lots of video tapes but I guess not. Or did the incompetent police miss these too.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 11:01 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Great doc, imho. It broke my heart.
A reminder- the link between peeping Tom to rapist to serial killer is very strong. It’s more a degree of how far along they are in the process. That’s why you have to take peeping Tom behavior seriously.
A reminder- the link between peeping Tom to rapist to serial killer is very strong. It’s more a degree of how far along they are in the process. That’s why you have to take peeping Tom behavior seriously.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 11:19 pm to grizzlylongcut
quote:
Haven’t finished the first episode but I can almost hear the raging erection that this reporter/journalist has over the case. It’s kinda disgusting to be honest.
Every documentary has that person trying too hard.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 10:14 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
There's a podcast called Crimanl that did two episodes on this a year or so ago. Had more interviews with them and went into a little more details about the kidnapping. One of the better episodes of a really great podcast. Haven't finished the documentary and I had never looked up photos of the couple but oddly enough they looked very similar to what I had pictured them looking like in my head. Unlike how completely different Joe Exotic looked when I finally saw him 
Posted on 1/24/24 at 10:35 am to grizzlylongcut
quote:Who are you talking about? The Asian guy for the SF newspaper?
Haven’t finished the first episode but I can almost hear the raging erection that this reporter/journalist has over the case. It’s kinda disgusting to be honest.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:28 am to Big Scrub TX
quote:
Who are you talking about? The Asian guy for the SF newspaper?
Yes
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:31 am to grizzlylongcut
Didn't really get that vibe from him. Just seemed like a pretty typical reporter. It's a crazy story, it's kind of his job to be interested/invested in it.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:36 pm to Big Scrub TX
The entire show looks like it's a badly produced Dateline.
I'm having a hard time believing it in its entirety. If at all.
I'm having a hard time believing it in its entirety. If at all.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 12:41 pm to hogcard1964
quote:nah
The entire show looks like it's a badly produced Dateline.
quote:That's fine. Instead, you can just believe the convictions.
I'm having a hard time believing it in its entirety. If at all.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:14 pm to BabyTac
quote:........
The #1 lesson I’ve always been taught is NEVER
Talk to the police without legal representation!!!!!! I don't care if you're only a witness to a vehicle accident. NEVER divulge information without an attorney present to protect your rights!
Every crime documentary I have seen always starts with someone (may or may not be the criminal) talking to the police. They will twist and turn every word you say to their own benefit.
It's what they do, it's their job!
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:23 pm to JDPndahizzy
quote:
Talk to the police without legal representation!!!!!! I don't care if you're only a witness to a vehicle accident. NEVER divulge information without an attorney present to protect your rights!
This was the one that stood out to me the most. People come out of these insane, sleep-deprived experiences and are just so grateful to have the "good guys" on the scene that they just never think to get an attorney.
The podcast mentioned that even after Aaron asked for his attorney, the cops stalled a bit (perhaps illegally) in fulfilling his request.
The thing is, I don't mind the detectives' skepticism - and even the tactic of sort of verbally roughing him up. But not to the point of excluding basic police work to chase down all angles and tie them up. Putting the phone in airplane mode just seems like inexplicable incompetence.
I'm just imagining myself in the same situation. Not only would I NOT let them have my phone without some sort of attorney oversight, but I would also do the thingy Android has where you can cause it to basically brick until you (the user) go through a bunch of steps that can't just be brute forced for entry even without your approval.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:26 pm to JDPndahizzy
quote:
Talk to the police without legal representation!!!!!! I don't care if you're only a witness to a vehicle accident. NEVER divulge information without an attorney present to protect your rights!
Every crime documentary I have seen always starts with someone (may or may not be the criminal) talking to the police. They will twist and turn every word you say to their own benefit.
It's what they do, it's their job!
I have no shame in admitting that my guilty pleasure TV watching is Dateline. You watch just a handful of Datelines and you realize this fact real quick.
People think "O I'm innocent, there's no harm in me talking to them/they'll see that I'm innocent." Hell no. Lawyer up. I don't care if I was 10 states over when this happened, talk to my attorney.
As dumb as these cops clearly were, I will say that the boyfriend was not very likeable. My wife did not like him at all. He was so casual in the interview that I can kind of see why the cops didn't believe him. Just another reason to attorney up.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:31 pm to iwyLSUiwy
quote:
I have no shame in admitting that my guilty pleasure TV watching is Dateline
Yep, me too.. I love crime/investigative stories too.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 3:11 pm to iwyLSUiwy
quote:Again, cops are supposed to know that there is no "normal" reaction - especially not if someone has been drugged.
As dumb as these cops clearly were, I will say that the boyfriend was not very likeable. My wife did not like him at all. He was so casual in the interview that I can kind of see why the cops didn't believe him. Just another reason to attorney up.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:36 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Just watched this... Wow... What in the frick.. Definitely gotta be more to the story with that shady arse FBI agent as well
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:47 pm to JDPndahizzy
quote:
I don't care if you're only a witness to a vehicle accident. NEVER divulge information without an attorney present to protect your rights!
This is a bit much. You are saying people should hire attorneys if they are witnesses to minor traffic accidents which is an idiotic statement.
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