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re: american murder: gabby petito
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:10 pm to wareaglepete
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:10 pm to wareaglepete
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Also, seeing the former boyfriend, that girl sure had a type.
My wife said the exact same thing when we watched it.
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 2:18 pm to Dingeaux
Exactly. If he had done things a little differently there’s a good chance he’d have gotten away with it. Glad he didn’t, of course, but it would have been really easy to say “she got mad at me and went camping by herself and I never saw her again”.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 4:29 pm to txpurpleandgold
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Exactly. If he had done things a little differently there’s a good chance he’d have gotten away with it. Glad he didn’t, of course, but it would have been really easy to say “she got mad at me and went camping by herself and I never saw her again”.
I agree
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:22 pm to wareaglepete
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Also, seeing the former boyfriend, that girl sure had a type.
They both looked like her dad and step-dad...
I just watched this and agree with others that they were both crazy. Seemed like she had emotional/immaturity issues and he probably snapped after a bad argument or after she tried to break up with him.
IDK why she wasn't arrested for DV in Moab - it might have saved her life.
Oh and his parents are total POS.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:50 am to Ostrich
quote:hard not to feel bad for the cops in Moab. From the bodycam footage they were kind, respectful, sincere and genuinely concerned with diffusing the situation and not trampling on their rights. Had she suffered a black eye or something it would have gone differently but he had the scratches on his face and she admitted to doing it. I’m not sure given the info they had at the time how they can be faulted but I’m sure they all have much regret about what happened next. You can either have cops or DV counselors but you can’t expect them to be both
IDK why she wasn't arrested for DV in Moab
the other thing to keep in mind is that Moab is a tiny tourist/adventure town with basically zero violent crime and/or poverty. Those guys are not faced with DV issues very often
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:11 am to BabyTac
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but why was Brian never investigated or even brought in for questioning on the whereabouts? Even with a lawyer. That seemed very odd to me. Maybe someone can chime in on why the cops couldn’t bring in Brian for questioning at all.
There was no body, so there was no probable cause to arrest or question him. The first Florida sergeant on the scene said that to the NY sergeant. Once they found her body, they immediately issued an arrest warrant.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:41 am to cgrand
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hard not to feel bad for the cops in Moab. From the bodycam footage they were kind, respectful, sincere and genuinely concerned with diffusing the situation and not trampling on their rights. Had she suffered a black eye or something it would have gone differently but he had the scratches on his face and she admitted to doing it. I’m not sure given the info they had at the time how they can be faulted but I’m sure they all have much regret about what happened next. You can either have cops or DV counselors but you can’t expect them to be both
Yeah it's tough and hindsight is always 20/20. Neither of them seemed totally out of control in their interaction with the Moab police.
The biggest question I am left with is a) how Brian got out of his house after her body was found. No police surveillance? b) Did his parents know he was leaving to kill himself? They already knew where to look. c) WHY were they allowed to search and potentially tamper with evidence?
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:13 am to Ostrich
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The biggest question I am left with is a) how Brian got out of his house after her body was found. No police surveillance?
The police mistook Brian for his mother driving the mustang
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:43 pm to wareaglepete
I can't believe it has already been 4 years ago since this happened. I remember watching the video the other travel bloggers posted thinking they found the van and the door closing as they passed by.
It was pretty crazy that the cops let her take the van and set him up in a hotel room. Would have thought it would have been the other way. Like others have said it came across she was addicted to the social media while it looked like he just wanted to take a cool trip across the country.
I can remember that her coverage was being colorized because she was the cute white girl missing and it was all over the news. That video of her with the cops showed that she was not in a stable mindset. She really needed help.
It was pretty crazy that the cops let her take the van and set him up in a hotel room. Would have thought it would have been the other way. Like others have said it came across she was addicted to the social media while it looked like he just wanted to take a cool trip across the country.
I can remember that her coverage was being colorized because she was the cute white girl missing and it was all over the news. That video of her with the cops showed that she was not in a stable mindset. She really needed help.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:44 pm to cfish140
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seemed like a really sweet girl.
I'm going to catch a lot of shite for this, but she honestly kind of came across as a manipulative narcissist to me. This in no way justifies killing or laying hands on her, but that relationship was mutually toxic.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:28 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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I'm going to catch a lot of shite for this, but she honestly kind of came across as a manipulative narcissist to me. This in no way justifies killing or laying hands on her, but that relationship was mutually toxic.
I don't think you'll catch shite for that, I think it's accurate. She needed a parent to tell her she wasn't equipped to do van life with a boyfriend thinking she'd make money on youtube. I'm sure they regret it at this point but she needed better guidance and didn't get it. At the same time, she was 22 and could make her own life choices. I bet that is a really tough age as a parent where your kid is technically an adult but doesn't have an actual life plan yet.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:31 pm to Ostrich
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I don't think you'll catch shite for that, I think it's accurate. She needed a parent to tell her she wasn't equipped to do van life with a boyfriend thinking she'd make money on youtube. I'm sure they regret it at this point but she needed better guidance and didn't get it. At the same time, she was 22 and could make her own life choices. I bet that is a really tough age as a parent where your kid is technically an adult but doesn't have an actual life plan yet.
I don't think you'll catch shite either. You could see from the videos in the show that she would take jabs at him about not being as involved in the social media part of it. She wasn't an angel but didn't deserve what she got.
I mentioned in an earlier post that these kids did not seem to have any direction. I didn't hear any mention of college at all. They were living at home and working at Taco Bell. They didn't appear to have much parental involvement. But they were 22, how much can the parents do?
Posted on 2/21/25 at 1:32 am to jchamil
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There was no body, so there was no probable cause to arrest or question him. The first Florida sergeant on the scene said that to the NY sergeant. Once they found her body, they immediately issued an arrest warrant.
But why could they not have brought him in for questioning relating to her being a missing person and he was the last one to see her? A simple we are trying to locate her so tell us about the last time you saw her, where was that at etc..
Posted on 2/21/25 at 5:07 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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I'm going to catch a lot of shite for this, but she honestly kind of came across as a manipulative narcissist to me.
Nah, pretty accurate and he was a massive pile of shite. Makes for a terrible relationship and then to say "hey lets spend 24 hours a day in a small van together" just makes it worse. I love my wife (no pics) and I think 7 days tops of that would be enough for the both of us.
Having said that, the dude can rot in hell along with his parents. He took the bitch arse way out too.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 6:11 am to LasVegasTiger
I could do the together-in-a-van thing with my wife no problem we basically are never apart anyway…but the social media journal thing is a no fricking way. Fortunately we are in agreement on that.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 7:30 am to npt817
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But why could they not have brought him in for questioning relating to her being a missing person and he was the last one to see her?
Under what authority could they make him talk to them? They hadn’t found a body yet, so there was no crime. They had no probable cause, This was covered in the documentary
Posted on 2/21/25 at 8:17 am to jchamil
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Under what authority could they make him talk to them? They hadn’t found a body yet, so there was no crime. They had no probable cause, This was covered in the documentary
and if he did agree to come in, he would have a lawyer with him who directed him how to answer every question asked.
crazy thing is, if he would have disposed of her body in a way that it couldn't be found, he never would have been charged. Luckily for her friends and family, he didn't and they now know what happened to her.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 8:55 am to cgrand
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but the social media journal thing is a no fricking way.
100% agree. No possible way I could do that.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:20 am to txpurpleandgold
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What I didn’t understand was why he would have his parents hire an attorney, not talk to the police, and then just end up killing himself anyway
He probably wanted to make sure his parents were safe. Never talk to the police without an attorney, even if you aren’t guilty of anything. The job of the police is to enforce laws. They are law enforcement officers.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 12:47 pm to Dingeaux
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and if he did agree to come in, he would have a lawyer with him who directed him how to answer every question asked.
They still could have brought him in for questioning about her last whereabouts. Whether he had a lawyer or not with him.
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