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re: ABC pulls 'Jimmy Kimmel Live' off air 'indefintely' over Charlie Kirk comments
Posted on 9/19/25 at 12:59 pm to DavidTheGnome
Posted on 9/19/25 at 12:59 pm to DavidTheGnome
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I do care that the government via the FCC is putting pressure to silence someone over their opinions
How is it that liberals are so stupid?
Its literally word for word in the FCC charter, that they are the watchdog of broadcast media. Broadcast media requires a license to operate. Cable and streaming do not. You have to sign up to get cable and streaming, but broadcast is given permission to use assigned airwaves for free use. But there are rules
Its the FCCs frickING JOB to monitor them
quote:
The FCC has had a policy against "news distortion" in over-the-air broadcast (local TV and radio stations) news for over 50 years. Cable news networks, newspapers or newsletters, social media platforms, online-only streaming outlets, or any other non-broadcast news platform are outside of the FCC's jurisdiction with respect to news distortion.
Heres the money shot, dumbass
quote:
News distortion "must involve a significant event and not merely a minor or incidental aspect of the news report." In weighing the constitutionality of the policy, courts have recognized that the policy "makes a crucial distinction between deliberate distortion and mere inaccuracy or difference of opinion." As a result, broadcasters are only subject to enforcement if it can be proven that they have deliberately distorted a factual news report.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 1:36 pm to BugAC
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Why don't you post Kimmel's comment and then try again?
He said
quote:
“We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang trying to characterize this kid who killed Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said during his show’s Monday monologue.
Which is what I said. He didn’t say he was MAGA or not, he criticized the knee jerk reactions immediately following Kirk’s death. Im no fan of Kimmel at all but again people seem to be hearing what they want to hear and strategically leaving parts out so they can get outraged about it.
And again I don’t care if Kimmel has a show or not I don’t watch it and never planned to. What does concern me is the government stepping in via the FCC to silence opinions they don’t like
Posted on 9/19/25 at 2:03 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Which is what I said. He didn’t say he was MAGA or not, he criticized the knee jerk reactions immediately following Kirk’s death
Your explanation only makes sense if you ignore the fact that by last weekend everyone knew the shooter was on the political far left. The left then spent that weekend spreading a lie that he was MAGA or far right. Obviously the right wouldn't let that lie stand and pushed back.
Somehow that was "a new low". And not "the truth".
Your explanation changes his quote to "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang telling the truth"
The other explanation is that Kimmel, a far left ideologue, wanted to help spread the lie that the shooter might actually be MAGA.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 2:16 pm to JoeHackett
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Your explanation only makes sense if you ignore the fact that by last weekend everyone knew the shooter was on the political far left.
I said immediately following
Posted on 9/19/25 at 2:29 pm to RobbBobb
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News distortion
That sounds an awful lot like "misinformation" or "disinformation", something the Biden admin used as justification to stifle speech over and over again on social media. If someone on ABC was speaking out against the validity of the vaccines during COVID, and the government considered it as "news distortion", citing the CDC as proof that the information was distorted (which they did during Covid) you'd be ok with the Biden FCC threatening to pull licenses unless "conduct is changed"?
Posted on 9/19/25 at 2:51 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Which is what I said. He didn’t say he was MAGA or not, he criticized the knee jerk reactions immediately following Kirk’s death. Im no fan of Kimmel at all but again people seem to be hearing what they want to hear and strategically leaving parts out so they can get outraged about it.
Just top.
This is what the Democrat platform does. They leave enough room to continue letting a lie live. It's why Joe Biden can continue to lie about "very fine people," after it is has been debunked.
It's why they choose a phrase like "Pro-Choice" instead of what they really are "Pro-Abortion."
Look what MSNBC did about Trump's rally in '24:
MSNC Splices Nazi clips into Trump Rally
They framed it as happening 85 years after Nazi rallies, why? Well obviously to try to equalize the two things. "We didn't CALL Trump a Nazi, we just wanted to inform you of this historical event for no reason at all." Yeah right.
This was not phrased as a joke, it was phrased in a way to continue to let the "Kirk killer is MAGA," live on as an interpretation of events. It is the Democrat game.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:00 pm to AHM21
What I take from this nonsense is that the MAGA right and the Woke left deserve each other. We are screwed as long as they continue to control politics and power on both sides of the spectrum.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 4:41 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Well this oughta be a hoot.
What does that have to do with your contortion of the actual language we’re discussing?
What exactly did I contort by repeating the exact words to you?
Posted on 9/19/25 at 4:42 pm to DavidTheGnome
quote:FACTS
Which is what I said. He didn’t say he was MAGA or not, he criticized the knee jerk reactions immediately following Kirk’s death. Im no fan of Kimmel at all but again people seem to be hearing what they want to hear and strategically leaving parts out so they can get outraged about it.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 4:45 pm to Freauxzen
quote:This is true
Just top.
This is what the Democrat platform does. They leave enough room to continue letting a lie live. It's why Joe Biden can continue to lie about "very fine people," after it is has been debunked.
It's why they choose a phrase like "Pro-Choice" instead of what they really are "Pro-Abortion."
Look what MSNBC did about Trump's rally in '24:
MSNC Splices Nazi clips into Trump Rally
They framed it as happening 85 years after Nazi rallies, why? Well obviously to try to equalize the two things. "We didn't CALL Trump a Nazi, we just wanted to inform you of this historical event for no reason at all." Yeah right.
quote:This part is false.
This was not phrased as a joke, it was phrased in a way to continue to let the "Kirk killer is MAGA," live on as an interpretation of events. It is the Democrat game.
Now could low-T lefties reframe it as such to bludgeon the right? Sure
But it still doesn't make it what he said.
It is what MAGA wanted him to have said
Posted on 9/19/25 at 4:55 pm to Roaad
He parroted phrases and narratives being used by violent groups right now. He’s legitimizing groups that have a kill list going around on a social media platform that has 40 million people and he knew it was false. You don’t understand the danger?
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:00 pm to Madking
quote:Then they should have gone after him for that.
He parroted phrases and narratives being used by violent groups right now
All I am saying is that he didn't say what people are claiming he said.
IDGAF if he is on the air, I don't even like him.
When you are talking about people YOU DON'T LIKE, I find it MORE important to be as honest as possible.
He never said nor implied the shooter was MAGA, he said MAGA was more eager to acquit themselves, and use him to bludgeon the left for points and point the finger, than to grieve.
He was wrong, but he wasn't lying, because he believed what he was saying.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:14 pm to Roaad
Well he did which was grammatically explained and proven to you last night by another poster. On top of that he’s suspended but you guys are acting like his career has been canceled like so many on the other side have been. To be clear I don’t think he should’ve been, suspension is the right move but the only reason he says these things is because it’s been sanctioned. This started when SMM was amended, that needs to be repealed so that you don’t have the people who influence him saying the same kind of dangerous things. If it’s not coming from people in the news and leadership Kimmel would’ve never said it.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:22 pm to Madking
quote:Link?
Well he did which was grammatically explained and proven to you last night by another poster
He never once said the shooter was MAGA, nor was it reasonably implied, but I will be glad to eviscerate someone's post
quote:He is suspended, and his show is shite. Even if he were to return, you are talking a few more months, at best
On top of that he’s suspended but you guys are acting like his career has been canceled like so many on the other side have been.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:27 pm to Roaad
It’s in one of the three threads, it was posted later last night.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:30 pm to Madking
Link it for me, I didn't come here for homework. You brought it up.
You are saying the person PROVES definitively that Kimmel meant only one specific thing.
I would be just tickled to read and respond to such a high quality takedown of my meager position
You are saying the person PROVES definitively that Kimmel meant only one specific thing.
I would be just tickled to read and respond to such a high quality takedown of my meager position
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:44 pm to Roaad
You know when and who it was because you were engaged in the convo. I believe it was robbob and I can tell by your attitude providing the info yet again won’t deter you. I’d be wasting my time.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:55 pm to Madking
quote:Then I am very confused, because I am re-reading my previous engagement and see no such thing?
You know when and who it was because you were engaged in the convo
I see a lot of people inserting what they wanted him to have said. Is that what you meant?
quote:I responded to his post directly. He proved nothing of the sort, as I proved.
I believe it was robbob
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:56 pm to Roaad
No he connected Kimmel’s verbiage to define its meaning
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:58 pm to Madking
quote:No he didn't
No he connected Kimmel’s verbiage to define its meaning
His entire post can be summed up with "but. . .I mean. . .come on"
I responded almost immediately
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