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re: ABC pulls 'Jimmy Kimmel Live' off air 'indefintely' over Charlie Kirk comments

Posted on 9/19/25 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 12:59 pm to
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I do care that the government via the FCC is putting pressure to silence someone over their opinions

How is it that liberals are so stupid?

Its literally word for word in the FCC charter, that they are the watchdog of broadcast media. Broadcast media requires a license to operate. Cable and streaming do not. You have to sign up to get cable and streaming, but broadcast is given permission to use assigned airwaves for free use. But there are rules

Its the FCCs frickING JOB to monitor them
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The FCC has had a policy against "news distortion" in over-the-air broadcast (local TV and radio stations) news for over 50 years. Cable news networks, newspapers or newsletters, social media platforms, online-only streaming outlets, or any other non-broadcast news platform are outside of the FCC's jurisdiction with respect to news distortion.

Heres the money shot, dumbass
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News distortion "must involve a significant event and not merely a minor or incidental aspect of the news report." In weighing the constitutionality of the policy, courts have recognized that the policy "makes a crucial distinction between deliberate distortion and mere inaccuracy or difference of opinion." As a result, broadcasters are only subject to enforcement if it can be proven that they have deliberately distorted a factual news report.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 1:36 pm to
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Why don't you post Kimmel's comment and then try again?


He said

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“We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang trying to characterize this kid who killed Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said during his show’s Monday monologue.



Which is what I said. He didn’t say he was MAGA or not, he criticized the knee jerk reactions immediately following Kirk’s death. Im no fan of Kimmel at all but again people seem to be hearing what they want to hear and strategically leaving parts out so they can get outraged about it.


And again I don’t care if Kimmel has a show or not I don’t watch it and never planned to. What does concern me is the government stepping in via the FCC to silence opinions they don’t like
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 2:03 pm to
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Which is what I said. He didn’t say he was MAGA or not, he criticized the knee jerk reactions immediately following Kirk’s death


Your explanation only makes sense if you ignore the fact that by last weekend everyone knew the shooter was on the political far left. The left then spent that weekend spreading a lie that he was MAGA or far right. Obviously the right wouldn't let that lie stand and pushed back.

Somehow that was "a new low". And not "the truth".

Your explanation changes his quote to "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang telling the truth"

The other explanation is that Kimmel, a far left ideologue, wanted to help spread the lie that the shooter might actually be MAGA.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 2:16 pm to
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Your explanation only makes sense if you ignore the fact that by last weekend everyone knew the shooter was on the political far left.



I said immediately following
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 2:29 pm to
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News distortion


That sounds an awful lot like "misinformation" or "disinformation", something the Biden admin used as justification to stifle speech over and over again on social media. If someone on ABC was speaking out against the validity of the vaccines during COVID, and the government considered it as "news distortion", citing the CDC as proof that the information was distorted (which they did during Covid) you'd be ok with the Biden FCC threatening to pull licenses unless "conduct is changed"?
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38442 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 2:51 pm to
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Which is what I said. He didn’t say he was MAGA or not, he criticized the knee jerk reactions immediately following Kirk’s death. Im no fan of Kimmel at all but again people seem to be hearing what they want to hear and strategically leaving parts out so they can get outraged about it.


Just top.

This is what the Democrat platform does. They leave enough room to continue letting a lie live. It's why Joe Biden can continue to lie about "very fine people," after it is has been debunked.

It's why they choose a phrase like "Pro-Choice" instead of what they really are "Pro-Abortion."

Look what MSNBC did about Trump's rally in '24:

MSNC Splices Nazi clips into Trump Rally

They framed it as happening 85 years after Nazi rallies, why? Well obviously to try to equalize the two things. "We didn't CALL Trump a Nazi, we just wanted to inform you of this historical event for no reason at all." Yeah right.

This was not phrased as a joke, it was phrased in a way to continue to let the "Kirk killer is MAGA," live on as an interpretation of events. It is the Democrat game.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 2:53 pm
Posted by ATLTiger24
Member since May 2007
512 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:00 pm to
What I take from this nonsense is that the MAGA right and the Woke left deserve each other. We are screwed as long as they continue to control politics and power on both sides of the spectrum.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 4:41 pm to
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What does that have to do with your contortion of the actual language we’re discussing?
Well this oughta be a hoot.

What exactly did I contort by repeating the exact words to you?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 4:42 pm to
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Which is what I said. He didn’t say he was MAGA or not, he criticized the knee jerk reactions immediately following Kirk’s death. Im no fan of Kimmel at all but again people seem to be hearing what they want to hear and strategically leaving parts out so they can get outraged about it.
FACTS
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 4:45 pm to
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Just top.

This is what the Democrat platform does. They leave enough room to continue letting a lie live. It's why Joe Biden can continue to lie about "very fine people," after it is has been debunked.

It's why they choose a phrase like "Pro-Choice" instead of what they really are "Pro-Abortion."

Look what MSNBC did about Trump's rally in '24:

MSNC Splices Nazi clips into Trump Rally

They framed it as happening 85 years after Nazi rallies, why? Well obviously to try to equalize the two things. "We didn't CALL Trump a Nazi, we just wanted to inform you of this historical event for no reason at all." Yeah right.
This is true

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This was not phrased as a joke, it was phrased in a way to continue to let the "Kirk killer is MAGA," live on as an interpretation of events. It is the Democrat game.
This part is false.

Now could low-T lefties reframe it as such to bludgeon the right? Sure

But it still doesn't make it what he said.

It is what MAGA wanted him to have said
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66712 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 4:55 pm to
He parroted phrases and narratives being used by violent groups right now. He’s legitimizing groups that have a kill list going around on a social media platform that has 40 million people and he knew it was false. You don’t understand the danger?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:00 pm to
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He parroted phrases and narratives being used by violent groups right now
Then they should have gone after him for that.

All I am saying is that he didn't say what people are claiming he said.

IDGAF if he is on the air, I don't even like him.

When you are talking about people YOU DON'T LIKE, I find it MORE important to be as honest as possible.

He never said nor implied the shooter was MAGA, he said MAGA was more eager to acquit themselves, and use him to bludgeon the left for points and point the finger, than to grieve.

He was wrong, but he wasn't lying, because he believed what he was saying.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66712 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:14 pm to
Well he did which was grammatically explained and proven to you last night by another poster. On top of that he’s suspended but you guys are acting like his career has been canceled like so many on the other side have been. To be clear I don’t think he should’ve been, suspension is the right move but the only reason he says these things is because it’s been sanctioned. This started when SMM was amended, that needs to be repealed so that you don’t have the people who influence him saying the same kind of dangerous things. If it’s not coming from people in the news and leadership Kimmel would’ve never said it.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 5:15 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:22 pm to
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Well he did which was grammatically explained and proven to you last night by another poster
Link?

He never once said the shooter was MAGA, nor was it reasonably implied, but I will be glad to eviscerate someone's post

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On top of that he’s suspended but you guys are acting like his career has been canceled like so many on the other side have been.
He is suspended, and his show is shite. Even if he were to return, you are talking a few more months, at best

Posted by Madking
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:27 pm to
It’s in one of the three threads, it was posted later last night.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:30 pm to
Link it for me, I didn't come here for homework. You brought it up.


You are saying the person PROVES definitively that Kimmel meant only one specific thing.

I would be just tickled to read and respond to such a high quality takedown of my meager position
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66712 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:44 pm to
You know when and who it was because you were engaged in the convo. I believe it was robbob and I can tell by your attitude providing the info yet again won’t deter you. I’d be wasting my time.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:55 pm to
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You know when and who it was because you were engaged in the convo
Then I am very confused, because I am re-reading my previous engagement and see no such thing?

I see a lot of people inserting what they wanted him to have said. Is that what you meant?

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I believe it was robbob
I responded to his post directly. He proved nothing of the sort, as I proved.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 5:57 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66712 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:56 pm to
No he connected Kimmel’s verbiage to define its meaning
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:58 pm to
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No he connected Kimmel’s verbiage to define its meaning
No he didn't

His entire post can be summed up with "but. . .I mean. . .come on"

I responded almost immediately
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