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Posted on 7/4/20 at 8:17 am to Jack Ruby
I went down a YouTube rabbit hole and watched some performances at Woodstock 99. Limp bizkit, kid rock, Korn, etc. I wish we could go back to those days
This post was edited on 7/4/20 at 10:41 am
Posted on 7/4/20 at 8:30 am to JustLivinTheDream
I’m not saying I disagree with you guys. However take anyone who was a kid/teen in one era, fast forward 20 years to the next era, and they are going to say the same things you are.
People who grew up in the 80’s probably watched those VMA’s thinking all that music was garbage and not “real music” like they had when they were kids
People who grew up in the 80’s probably watched those VMA’s thinking all that music was garbage and not “real music” like they had when they were kids
Posted on 7/4/20 at 10:30 am to Jack Ruby
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So, MTV aired, in full the 2000 VMA's the other day (they literally are playing 20 yr old stuff b/c they have no other shows), but the broadcast was truly fascinating.
Eminem was the biggest act there, obviously he had just released his second "real slim shady" album and had a pretty iconic performance on the night.
I’m 38 years old and was class of 2000. Senior year high school was maybe the funnest period in my life. Just reading your synopsis of the 2000 mtv vma brings back great memories. Basically the culmination of late 90s pop culture, which was great.
Also, and I’m sure some will disagree, this time period was arguably mtv’s pinnacle.
This post was edited on 7/4/20 at 10:32 am
Posted on 7/4/20 at 10:32 am to Jack Ruby
Moby put a Gore sticker on the podium when he was presenting.
Posted on 7/4/20 at 10:45 am to Tiger1242
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People who grew up in the 80’s probably watched those VMA’s thinking all that music was garbage and not “real music” like they had when they were kids
I don’t disagree that a lot of the late 90s music doesn’t hold up, and many of the most famous acts weren’t really musically talented, but I think this time period was truly unique for pop music.
There were 4 distinct “sub genres”, all massively popular, with lots of cross over fans. The boy band era, Britney Spears/Christina, Eminem (and the dr dre chronic 2000 revival and nu metal (led by limp bizkit). Also, and to a much lesser extent, this in when techno/Edm/rave culture started going mainstream.
I really don’t think there’s been another period in time where you had such a melting pot of pop music that was universally loved and brought people together.
Posted on 7/4/20 at 10:59 am to BCLA
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Fred Durst got on stage with Christina Aguilara to perform and effectively killed mainstream rock, and his career at the same time.
I had forgotten about that. 
Posted on 7/4/20 at 11:50 am to Jack Ruby
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And most of all, the show took place in September 2000, just 2 months before a giant presidential election... And the only mention of politics on the entire 3 hour show, was Pink (who has amazingly outlasted all of the acts on the night) said she would vote for Jim Carey for President
Funny because while I’m sure she was joking, i would wager that she probably wasn’t aware that he was ineligible as a Canadian.
I actually point back to 2000 as the beginning of all of the political fall out we’re subject to now. I had no idea all of Hollywood was liberal as a HS student, till I saw everybody endorsing Gore.
Clinton has been impeached and the left was angry because it was something as stupid as lying about a bj. The right was mad because as dumb as lying about a BJ was, it was still breaking the law and lying under oath.
So when Bush wins the electoral college but loses the popular vote, it’s just more pushing people to hyper-partisanship. I knew there was a divide beforehand but it seems like that pushed us to our current brink. 9/11 was a short break from it’s been going to shite since then.
Posted on 7/4/20 at 12:18 pm to Brosef Stalin
People were still fans of music back then..its a sad time for art in general nowadays.
Wish MTV would fold, and some Phoenix would rise from the ashes that isnt controlled by a handful of people dominating media and telling the world what to like.
Wish MTV would fold, and some Phoenix would rise from the ashes that isnt controlled by a handful of people dominating media and telling the world what to like.
This post was edited on 7/4/20 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 7/4/20 at 1:08 pm to HeLeakin
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99 VMAs were better.
Just the fact that Trent Reznor performed the first new NIN material off of The Fragile (title track too, interesting, not single choice) at the 99 vma's makes it infinitely better
Posted on 7/4/20 at 1:12 pm to SEClint
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People were still fans of music back then..its a sad time for art in general nowadays.
Wish MTV would fold, and some Phoenix would rise from the ashes that isnt controlled by a handful of people dominating media and telling the world what to like.
YouTube killed the mtv music video era; it’s never coming back. Has nothing to do with people not being fans of music anymore.
Similar comparison is available on demand sports highlights on the internet killing sportscenter and baseball tonight.
Posted on 7/4/20 at 1:13 pm to Civildawg
quote:.. This is a legendary performance that essentially killed the 90s, riots and molestation was happening at this performance, fires lit, etc...
Woodstock 99. Limp bizkit,
It symbolized how far we were from the peace and love of the original Woodstock in 69. Even the 94 version with the mud fights still had that underlying message of free love and spirit..
99 was the Anti-Woodstock, it's a time capsule of the hate and negative energy movement which has culminated in 2020
The energy during Break Stuff and the Ministry cover of Thieves is unreal... You can feel it through the video.
I used to own Woodstock 99 on VHS before anyone put it up on the internet and it was a hot commodity, someone stole the tape that had the Limp Bizkit performance on it
This post was edited on 7/4/20 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 7/4/20 at 1:20 pm to 632627
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YouTube killed the mtv music video era; it’s never coming back. Has nothing to do with people not being fans of music anymore.
Similar comparison is available on demand sports highlights on the internet killing sportscenter and baseball tonight.
Difference between those is that one is an artistic expression, and those always get recycled.
I've said and I truly believe that if MTV decided to play videos from the 80s and 90s during this pandemic, their ratings would be the best they've had since those times.
People still like that television format, especially those who are into retro shite. People vocally miss it. YouTube is good and bad in that world. I'm glad it's there for what it is and serves, but we need more.
This post was edited on 7/4/20 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 7/4/20 at 1:49 pm to SEClint
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I've said and I truly believe that if MTV decided to play videos from the 80s and 90s during this pandemic, their ratings would be the best they've had since those times.
People still like that television format, especially those who are into retro shite. People vocally miss it.
I think people like you, me and everyone in this thread are vocal about missing it for nostalgic reasons.
I don’t think anyone in 2020 is really going to sit around watching mtv all day waiting for their favorite music video to come on.
It would be cool to catch an old VMA, or maybe one of the spring break shows; but that’s about it. We just need to accept that MTV is dead.
Posted on 7/4/20 at 2:06 pm to 632627
quote:then someone needs to buy their library and play what they have.
We just need to accept that MTV is dead.
People would probably leave the tv on to listen to music, and maybe people today dont like it because they dont know they would like it.
Imagine if those videos were public domain after 30 years and the indie stations that could emerge
Posted on 7/4/20 at 3:08 pm to SEClint
Rob Dyrdek still killing it
Posted on 7/4/20 at 3:13 pm to Brosef Stalin
Fresh Out Playlist
Rob deserves 76 straight hours
Rob deserves 76 straight hours
Posted on 7/4/20 at 8:10 pm to JustLivinTheDream
Bye bye bye was gay as hell homo
Posted on 7/4/20 at 8:53 pm to Jack Ruby
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Eminem was the biggest act there, obviously he had just released his second "real slim shady" album and had a pretty iconic performance on the night.
That was the one where they had the 2000 Slim Shadys all lined up from the parking lot that followed him in, right?
Say what you want about Eminem, you don’t have to like the music. But the Recovery album is one of the most soul bearingly honest works I’ve ever heard
Posted on 7/4/20 at 8:59 pm to elprez00
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Say what you want about Eminem, you don’t have to like the music.
He’s the best and also the most uniquely talented rapper of all time.
It’s crazy to think how insanely popular Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears and N’Sync were back then, yet they were all dwarfed by Eminem.
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