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re: Zion after 15 years of playing in NOLA (NSIAP)

Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:06 pm to
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

Maybe pay attention.

Griffin had the luxury of having lebron recruit superstars to Cleveland and already had Kyrie there. This is a completely different situation than Cleveland. Still, let’s assume he does ok. Would you take an unhappy AD and Zion over those players and picks I mentioned?
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 3:08 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115938 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:08 pm to
Yes. Good lord.

Also: This is NOT THE SAME MANAGEMENT THAT BUNGLED AD.

Its not really even the same ownership.

Griffin has a blank check to change the FO and has already done a great job. He just added, literally, the best head of medical/training in the entire NBA, an absolute legend.

You take the superstar. ALWAYS. Because you have 7-9 years to get it right with him.
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
6932 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:17 pm to
Nah. The OP is *so* far off.

This is Zion chilling with his agent, on the proceeds of his shoe contract, after two years in New Orleans.


Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:18 pm to
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Yes. Good lord. Also: This is NOT THE SAME MANAGEMENT THAT BUNGLED AD. Its not really even the same ownership. Griffin has a blank check to change the FO and has already done a great job. He just added, literally, the best head of medical/training in the entire NBA, an absolute legend. You take the superstar. ALWAYS. Because you have 7-9 years to get it right with him.

The problem is NO has a reputation and it won’t change until people see results. AD already has one foot out the door, so I guess Griffin’s first test is seeing what he can get for AD. If Zion says he’s fine with NO, then I’d obviously take him. If not, I’m taking Tatum/smart and picks and seeing if I can get Simmons and someone else from philly for Zion. Ben Simmons went to LSU, so he has history there and I think Tatum will develop into a star.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115938 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:22 pm to
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The problem is NO has a reputation and it won’t change until people see results.


So your solution is for them to not try.

They took the first step by hiring a competent, well respected guy and gave him a blank check.

quote:

If Zion says he’s fine with NO, then I’d obviously take him.


He doesn't have a say in the matter. So there's that.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 3:23 pm
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:30 pm to
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So your solution is for them to not try. They took the first step by hiring a competent, well respected guy and gave him a blank check.

Never said this. Just stated the obvious fact that their reputation won’t change until they show results
quote:

He doesn't have a say in the matter. So there's that.

He does. He could tell them he won’t play for them. If they listen to him, they could get a nice package from another team. If they call his bluff, he can go back to duke, go overseas, or play for the national team under gregg popovich. In which case, Ja Morant isn’t a bad consolation prize.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 3:32 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110885 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:32 pm to
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It would be dumb to rent Zion if he didn’t want to play there when he could net them so much value.

5 years is not a rental.

Also, if he turns out to be elite, he'll have even more value 3-4 years down the road than he does now.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115938 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

e could tell them he won’t play for them.




ok
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84873 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:37 pm to
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Ben Simmons went to LSU, so he has history there


By the time he left he was almost universally loathed
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84873 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:37 pm to
Yeah, these clowns trying to push this narrative are pathetic
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115938 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:39 pm to
Zion only has one option: pull his name out the draft and either go back to college or sit a year. He is not going to do that. Nike is about to give him an enormous shoe deal. He would be one year closer to his 2nd contract. No one is doing this.

He can't say I'm staying the draft but I don't want NOLA to pick me, because NOLA can pick him and just hold onto his rights...forever.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71424 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:42 pm to
Once Loria and Sterling were removed from their respective teams, it can easily be argued the Knicks have the worst management team of the big 3 sports.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115938 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:44 pm to
One of my favorite comments on Pels talk:

Media: New Orleans will ruin Zion!

Also Media: How can we get Zion to play for James Dolan?
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 4:02 pm to
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By the time he left he was almost universally loathed

Really? What happened?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110885 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 4:03 pm to
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Really? What happened?

LSU didn't make the postseason, for starters.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84873 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 4:13 pm to
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Really? What happened?


#1 recruit in the country and you didn’t even make the tournament. Eye popping stats but wasn’t a leader even in the slightest and was going through the motions most of his time here.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 4:33 pm
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139841 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 4:22 pm to
Weren’t they invited but turned it down after Simmons said screw it im out and the SECT debacle
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 5:00 pm to
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#1 recruit in the country and you didn’t even make the tournament. Eye popping stats but wasn’t a leader even in the slightest and was going through the motions most of his time here

Anthony Edwards is getting hyped up a lot as well. I still don’t think UGA will have enough to do much. Would be nice to make the tourney though.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75452 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 5:03 pm to
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