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re: Zachary v. Teurlings Catholic baseball fight update

Posted on 3/31/12 at 8:02 pm to
Posted by rmc
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Posted on 3/31/12 at 8:02 pm to
So ZHS gets in fights every game?
Posted by EBRdropout
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Posted on 3/31/12 at 8:04 pm to
So ZHS gets in fights every game?

They are trying to provoke. Most teams have more class to stoop to their level
Posted by rmc
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Posted on 3/31/12 at 8:08 pm to
Try to learn the quote function. Also, I have no idea what your last sentence means.

And again, Zachary didn't start the physical portion of this altercation. I know for someone hellbent on hating Zachary that doens't mean much. Try to process it and fix your communication skills at the same time.
This post was edited on 3/31/12 at 8:09 pm
Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 3/31/12 at 8:16 pm to
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And again, Zachary didn't start the physical portion of this altercation.



You say that, but they got labeled the instigators by LHSAA. Evidence is against them.



Posted by EBRdropout
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Posted on 3/31/12 at 8:23 pm to
Its appears I am communicating just fine. I will conclude with this.
Zachary baseball players are one of the most talented in the state. Many are great young men who were taught to play with unacceptable behaviors. As a parent I accept responsibility for my children good or bad. The parents should accept this and help the boys accept it. The season could easily have ended Thursday. They were given a chance to redeem themselves and prove all of us wrong. Until then, play ball and quit crying.
Posted by rmc
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Posted on 3/31/12 at 8:24 pm to
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You say that, but they got labeled the instigators by LHSAA. Evidence is against them.


I say that because its true. The physical portion was started by a TCHS playing spiking a ZHS player. Reading comprehension wasn't taught well when you went to school apparently.
Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 3/31/12 at 8:27 pm to
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I say that because its true. The physical portion was started by a TCHS playing spiking a ZHS player. Reading comprehension wasn't taught well when you went to school apparently.



Who threw the first punch? The spiking is wrong, but is a part of the game. Throwing a punch is not.


According to LHSAA, Zachary were the instigators.

ETA: My bad, was thinking of the rulings. ZHS had more rulings against them.

This post was edited on 3/31/12 at 8:29 pm
Posted by rmc
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Posted on 3/31/12 at 8:38 pm to
Yeah, LHSAA called them instigators. I get that.

Just about every eye witness account I've read and heard has said TCHS spiked, got up and pushed and started it.

Just because LHSAA says they are instigators doen't mean they threw the first punch or initiated contact.

Another thing, if spiking is a part of the game, then I assume shite talk is too. But that probably doesn't matter for you. You are obviously full of hate for (1) Zachary, (2) ZHS baseball and/or (3) Jesse Cassard.
Posted by Cuz413
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Posted on 3/31/12 at 9:35 pm to
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I think thats the point you are recruiting great players that other coaches have trained.


Name them.
Posted by Cuz413
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Posted on 3/31/12 at 9:38 pm to
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hey are trying to provoke

Provoke what?

quote:

Most teams have more class to stoop to their level

Most teams lose to them as well.

ZHS playing mind games with their opponents.
Posted by Cuz413
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Posted on 3/31/12 at 9:39 pm to
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Who threw the first punch?


TCHS
Posted by rmc
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Posted on 3/31/12 at 9:48 pm to
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Cuz413


In this thread, there are obviously several parents of players who played for a team that got beat by ZHS. ZHS probably talked a little shite and they got butt hurt. Oh, but they'll cheer the shite out of Laron Landry standing over a fricked up Brodie Croyle.

The most amazing thing in this thread is the almost total disregard for any fault by TCHS, its coaches and its players. I've been told that the TCHS coach mentioned this might even happen to the ZHS coach before the game because the TCHS players were still angry about getting 10 run ruled earlier in the year. TCHS were just innocent bystanders here. It all ZHS and its culture of thugdom.

Lots of people are super jelly in this thread.
Posted by Zachary Fan
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Posted on 3/31/12 at 9:57 pm to
If TCHS coach knew that is what his players intended to do then it is his responsibility as a coach to make sure that his kids do not get out of hand. They went to that game with 30 plus players. They went there with the intention of fighting. If He knew that and he should have nipped that in the bud before the game started, not warn the other coach.

Rmc this comment that I made above is just added to yours. I agree totally with what u are saying. Lot of ZHS haters out there because we have a successful baseball program. These boys that they are bashing and calling names are wonderful respectable boys and I can say that because I know them all personally.
This post was edited on 3/31/12 at 10:09 pm
Posted by Cuz413
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Posted on 3/31/12 at 10:13 pm to
TCHS coach told the LHSAA his players were frightened by the ZHS players. The players that "instigated" the thrash talking were 4 reserve pitchers who were running on the warning track to warm up before the game. They started talking smack to the TCHS players and next thing you know TCHS is throwing punches during the game.

I've seen some heated rivalries and very good baseball games because of it. In 2007 ZHS was 0-3 to Captain Shreve going into the title game. CS players wrote in the dirt in front of the ZHS dugout 0-4. Did the ZHS players run out there and fight? No. Cassard told the team that this is the chance to prove themselves on the field they are the better team. They went out and won 7-0.

Last year in the WM tourney ZHS and St. Amant had a good game with ZHS coming out on top. They played the next week at St. Amant. The St. Amant students were thrash talking, cursing, and harassing the ZHS players. St. Amant dominated and won with no fights.


I've seen extensive trash talking from:
Capatain Shreve, Live Oak, Catholic, Franklinton, Neville, Teurlings, STM, Barbe, St. Amant, and Sam Houston. Most teams with confidence do this. It's a head game being played on your opponents.

Some of the critics in this thread act as if their kids or team is a bunch of choir boys who sit on their hands in the dug out and be quiet.
Posted by Interception
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/31/12 at 10:31 pm to
Hey fights happen and there are consequences. The coaches lost control so why are they getting only 1 game? I have no idea about the penalty being handed out, but I promise you every coach in the state is warning their teams about fighting and taunting. My real problem is with the coaches not being suspended for the entire season. If your banning those teams from the postseason then more should be done to the coaches for losing institutional control.
Posted by Cuz413
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Posted on 3/31/12 at 10:47 pm to
I can agree with a more than one game suspension for the coaches. However the issue for both teams looks to be that there were parents/ adults/ fans that entered the field of play.

ZHS had two on duty law enforcement officials enter to counter the TCHS folks from attacking the ZHS players (Third baseman for sure). A third ZHS adult stayed by the entrance gate and did not enter the field of play.

WM and Pineville had a bench clearing brawl but served minor suspensions due to spectators not entering the field.
Posted by TIGRLEE
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Posted on 3/31/12 at 10:48 pm to
West Monroe and Pineville baseball teams got into a brawl last week.
CSB.
DOnt know any specifics.
Posted by Cuz413
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Posted on 3/31/12 at 11:04 pm to
Posted by lsusteve1
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Posted on 4/1/12 at 9:39 am to
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Just because LHSAA says they are instigators doen't mean they threw the first punch or initiated contact.


Do you honestly think the the LHSAA is just picking on Zachary rmc?

Trust me......this is not the first time ZHS has had issues with games and poor sportsmanship. It just went a little too far this time.

ZHS is better than that...yet they don't act like it most times.......unfortunate.

Posted by rmc
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Posted on 4/1/12 at 9:44 am to
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Do you honestly think the the LHSAA is just picking on Zachary rmc?

Trust me......this is not the first time ZHS has had issues with games and poor sportsmanship. It just went a little too far this time.

ZHS is better than that...yet they don't act like it most times.......unfortunate.


Not at all. Just trying to make sure the record is straight in here. There is a lot of hypocrisy in this thread. As I said, the same persons whining in this thread about Zachary and how they act doesn't mind if TM7 goes around mugging for cameras after a strip, scoop and score. They think its funny. But he regularly displays no better sportsmanship than ZHS baseball.

Does it not matter to you that TCHS initiated the brawl itself by spiking/pushing?
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