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Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:22 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:I'm mocking you. You actually think that a loss on Thanksgiving should count more than a loss on Labor Day. That just makes no sense at all.
to get to the game on december 6th?
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:30 pm to xiv
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You actually think that a loss on Thanksgiving should count more than a loss on Labor Day. That just makes no sense at all.
Worse, he thinks if a team loses a conference game on Oct 6, needs help just to tie for the conference title that team should get to play for the NC, but a team that has locked up the best record in its conference loses its last game they should be DQed and should not. Put another way, if Wisconsin lost to Michigan on Nov 20 they can still play for the NC because it wasn't their last regular season game, but if Ohio State lost to UM a week later, they should not be allowed to play for the NC because it was their last game.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 11:26 pm to LSUMafia
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You mean like Kansas in 2007?
best record in the country even after bowl games fwiw
Posted on 11/28/10 at 11:30 pm to LSUMafia
this will all be fixed soon. both big 10 and pac 10 will have conf championship games
Posted on 11/28/10 at 11:46 pm to JoLeUGA
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I don't wanna hear it LSU fans.
You can't bitch about us claiming these things in 2007 if this is the case.
When the teams competing for the spot are from the SAME conference, the situation is different.
LSU had beat a top 5 team in the BCS
LSU had the better record
LSU won their division
LSU won the SEC
LSU played a tougher schedule
LSU had all these things going for them over UGA.
You don't have to win your conference to play for the NC, but it fricking helps.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 11:48 pm to JoLeUGA
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JoLeUGA
The best part about this is how he's been posting a ton since he made this statement, but he won't touch this thread again.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 4:13 am to lsumatt
Over and above the spin doctors and resume builders, I believe one camp has the better argument: Not conference champions? Not good enough.
Did you win your division, your conference, your championship game *if applicable? If so you might be worthy enough to play for a national title.
If not, no matter what your team did before that, it doesn't matter. Quit crying about how "deserving" you are.
If you don't win when it MATTERS you don't "deserve" to be there.
Did you win your division, your conference, your championship game *if applicable? If so you might be worthy enough to play for a national title.
If not, no matter what your team did before that, it doesn't matter. Quit crying about how "deserving" you are.
If you don't win when it MATTERS you don't "deserve" to be there.
This post was edited on 11/29/10 at 4:15 am
Posted on 11/29/10 at 4:26 am to lsumatt
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Did I get this right?
It is never a good thing to have a rematch in college football. That said, if Auburn doesn't win when it counts, in the SECCG, they don't qualify for either the SEC Championship or the BCSCG.
Can you win when it matters? Boise State's kicker made a few field goals this season. He was "deserving" of being their starting kicker. Did he convert the most important FG of the season when it mattered?
"Computer says no." -Carol Beer
Posted on 11/29/10 at 4:32 am to loweralabamatrojan
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It is never a good thing to have a rematch in college football
It is if they are the two best teams in the country.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 4:35 am to LSUtoOmaha
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It is if they are the two best teams in the country.
Do you think Auburn and South Carolina are the two best teams in the country?
Posted on 11/29/10 at 4:35 am to LSUtoOmaha
for everyone who wants a playoff, here it is. oregon and auburn rank 1 and 2. win and you're in. these are like their semifinals
trojan when i think about a rematch i think of michigan ohio state in 06... the BCS made the right call in selecting Florida for the NCG.
trojan when i think about a rematch i think of michigan ohio state in 06... the BCS made the right call in selecting Florida for the NCG.
This post was edited on 11/29/10 at 4:37 am
Posted on 11/29/10 at 4:35 am to loweralabamatrojan
And did Ohio State/Wisconsin/Michigan St. all win their conference this year? I bet you wouldn't be bitching if one of these teams got into the title game if everyone else had one loss. Would you say that, "oh well, they split the title three ways, so they deserve to go over an SEC team that didn't make the SECG?"
My point is, the whole notion of winning one's conference is misleading because different conferences have different rules. Some allow sharing, some don't.
My point is, the whole notion of winning one's conference is misleading because different conferences have different rules. Some allow sharing, some don't.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 4:40 am to LSUtoOmaha
quote:All those conferences that have "sharing" have some sort of tiebreaker for primacy. In the PAC 10 it is legitimate: head to head winner gets the tiebreaker, and each team plays all the others, so it always applies.
My point is, the whole notion of winning one's conference is misleading because different conferences have different rules. Some allow sharing, some don't.
Don't know about the Big 10, or how "fair" it is to any of their teams.
SEC teams really have nothing to bitch about. Two divisions. Win your division and earn a shot at the SEC title. Win that an earn a shot at the BCS title. Simple enough for me.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 6:01 am to lsumatt
quote:
tougher schedule, better wins, better losses
Better losses???? Not really. UGA lost to a 10-4 Tenn team.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 7:00 am to chalmetteowl
quote:Well the year when NY Giants beat the NE Patriots in the superbowl they lost their last game of the season to the Patriots.
if you lose the last game and still get in than what's the point?
This post was edited on 11/29/10 at 7:18 am
Posted on 11/29/10 at 7:55 am to dukke v
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Better losses???? Not really. UGA lost to a 10-4 Tenn team.
by 21. LSU lost to 2 8-5 teams in triple OT. Close loses are better than arse kickings
Posted on 11/29/10 at 8:11 am to loweralabamatrojan
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Quit crying about how "deserving" you are.
No one is crying about anything this is a matter or general principle and has nothing to do with anyone's team or conference getting shafted. The standard that you should have to win a conference, which is based on 2/3 to 3/4 of the season to be national champs. Especially given the arbitrary nature of winning a conference.
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All those conferences that have "sharing" have some sort of tiebreaker for primacy.
Wisconsin, Ohio State and Michigan State all are 7-1 in the Big 10. Wisky beat OSU, lost to MSU, OSU and MSU did not play. Please break that tie.
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Did you win your division, your conference, your championship game *if applicable? If so you might be worthy enough to play for a national title.
No matter what happens in the SEC CG, Auburn will have the best record in the SEC, So Car no better than the 4th best record in the SEC. A loss by AU will also give then the same amount of conference loses as all the Big 10 teams. It is ridiculously illogical to say Any one of 3 arbirtaryly selected Big 10 teams are more worthy than Auburn at that point.
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If you don't win when it MATTERS you don't "deserve" to be there.
Funny one of the reasons some of us defend the BCS is that it makes the ENTIRE season matter, not just certain games. Its just stupid to say losing a confernce game on 10/6 doesn't exclude you from the NC, but losing one on 12/6 does.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 8:27 am to H-Town Tiger
i've always said you should have to make the conf championship game to be eligible.
do the pac-10 and big 10 go to conference championship games next year with the added teams? i think now would be the perfect time to add that clause assuming they do.
do the pac-10 and big 10 go to conference championship games next year with the added teams? i think now would be the perfect time to add that clause assuming they do.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 8:28 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:No matter what they did this season, if Auburn can't win the SEC Championship over the East Rep, whatever their record, Auburn doesn't deserve to go to the BCSCG. I pull for Auburn and want them to win, but IMHO if you're not good enough to win the SEC, don't rep them in the BCSCG.
No matter what happens in the SEC CG, Auburn will have the best record in the SEC, So Car no better than the 4th best record in the SEC. A loss by AU will also give then the same amount of conference loses as all the Big 10 teams. It is ridiculously illogical to say Any one of 3 arbirtaryly selected Big 10 teams are more worthy than Auburn at that point.
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