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re: "You should have to win your conference to play for a NC"

Posted on 11/28/10 at 6:00 pm to
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 11/28/10 at 6:00 pm to
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the UGA stance is pretty pathetic since LSU beat or matched them in every metric.


our team was cooler fwiw
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
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Posted on 11/28/10 at 6:08 pm to
You know, people make this argument all the time, yet not a single one has come here to explain why Wisconsin should be eligible but not a 1-loss Auburn team.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
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Posted on 11/28/10 at 6:16 pm to
because wisconsin won their conference... if you lose the last game and still get in than what's the point?

it should matter when you lose. oklahoma absolutely should not have gotten in in 2003, nor should have nebraska in 2001. LSU at least won their last game in 2007
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/28/10 at 6:19 pm to
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because wisconsin won their conference... if you lose the last game and still get in than what's the point?


Did Michigan State and Ohio State win their conference? Because the Big 10 said they did. So they should all be eligible because the Big10 makes a rule saying 30% of our conference is a Big10 champ, but the SEC's best team isn't?

Would you be okay with it, if the SEC said, the winner of the SECCG goes to the Sugar, but the team with the higher BCS ranking is "our champion"
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/28/10 at 6:20 pm to
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because wisconsin won their conference


so did 2 other teams. If Auburn loses to USCe, they will still have the best record in the SEC all by themselves, Wisconsin can not say that.
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it should matter when you lose


why? I hate that mentality. A loss is a loss. Wisconsin still lost a conference game, that would be the same as AU if AU loses Saturday, the difference would be no one can match AU, when Wisky lost, others could have had a better record.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/28/10 at 6:34 pm to
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You mean like Kansas in 2007?


Their SOS was a jeauke, but if they'd played a legitimate schedule they would have had a good case.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 6:35 pm to
Ohio State was Big Ten co-champs in 2002.
Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/28/10 at 6:43 pm to
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I don't wanna hear it LSU fans.

You can't bitch about us claiming these things in 2007 if this is the case.
Little bit different situation
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Santa Barbara
Member since Jan 2005
45656 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 6:51 pm to
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oklahoma absolutely should not have gotten in in 2003, nor should have nebraska in 2001. LSU at least won their last game in 2007


OU in 2003 was destroying people and was hands down the best team in the Big12. NU in 2001 I can see Oregon going instead.

CCGs are for money only, and should be looked at as simply another conference game. I like HTT (or maybe Matt)'s idea that the SEC's AQ is the SECCG winner, but the Conference Champ is the team with the best ranking/record in the final rankings
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
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53795 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 7:40 pm to
i look at it as, if you win you're in, so shouldn't you be out if you lose?
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 7:42 pm to
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i look at it as, if you win you're in, so shouldn't you be out if you lose?


What does that mean?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53795 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:03 pm to
if you lose the last game you should be out.

kind of like a playoff
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60809 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:06 pm to
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if you lose the last game you s


that makes no sense at all.
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:20 pm to
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if you lose the last game you should be out.


great. Maybe the SEC can have the CG a week early and then everyone can play McNeese or something the last week.

There -Fixed that problem.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53795 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:28 pm to
why does the NCAA basketball selection committee look at the last 10 games? that keeps teams out of the tournament
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:52 pm to
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because wisconsin won their conference... if you lose the last game and still get in than what's the point?
If Auburn is required to win the SEC, then Wisconsin should also be required to win the SEC.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:54 pm to
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quote:
it should matter when you lose



why? I hate that mentality. A loss is a loss. Wisconsin still lost a conference game, that would be the same as AU if AU loses Saturday, the difference would be no one can match AU, when Wisky lost, others could have had a better record.

+1

A loss on September 1 counts just as much as does a loss on December 1.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:57 pm to
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if you lose the last game you should be out.

kind of like a playoff
It's a 2-team playoff. Oklahoma was so good in 2003 that they had clinched a spot in the Sugar Bowl before their last game. They earned that, so they were awarded that.

If you want to count a game on December 6 more than you count a game on October 6, why even play the game on October 6 at all?
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:57 pm to
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why does the NCAA basketball selection committee look at the last 10 games? that keeps teams out of the tournament
We're talking about football.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60809 posts
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:59 pm to
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why does the NCAA basketball selection committee look at the last 10 games? that keeps teams out of the


Really? If #1 Duke loses in the ACC tournament they would be out?
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