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re: You have to start an MLB team with a pitcher/hitter from the same team...
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:34 pm to dnm3305
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:34 pm to dnm3305
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I meant he isnt what the scouts thought he would be yet and still has potential to turn into that. 3 yrs ago, you couldnt find a scout that would say he would hit less than 45 hrs in a season. He hasnt done that once yet.
Seriously?
1. He hasn't played a full season yet
2. He is 24 years old
How many players have hit 40+ HRs between their age 21-24 seasons?
Only a few guys have even done that over the past few years and their names are Cabrera, Bautista, Howard, Pujols and Prince
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:37 pm to Lester Earl
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most scouts would still tell you there isnt a player in the majors with more power.
he has 2 of the 4 longest HRs in the MLB this year. Including the furthest
So because he can hit the ball farther than, let's say Mike Trout, he's a better power hitter? What does HR distance have to do with power production?
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:38 pm to GynoSandberg
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Only a few guys have even done that over the past few years and their names are Cabrera, Bautista, Howard, Pujols and Prince
And you consider Stanton on that level right now? I specifically said he wasnt ELITE YET.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:41 pm to dnm3305
Guys, Im not anti-Giancarlo Stanton lol. I think he's one of the best young players in the game and he prlly has top 5 trade value in all of baseball. That doesnt mean he is a top 5 power hitter in the game yet is all im saying.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:48 pm to dnm3305
Yes he has more power than mike trout
Is he as good of overal hitter? No
More power, yes.
What does distance have to do with it? Well when you hit the ball far consistently, you tend to him more HRs than other players
Is he as good of overal hitter? No
More power, yes.
What does distance have to do with it? Well when you hit the ball far consistently, you tend to him more HRs than other players
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:48 pm to dnm3305
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and he prlly has top 5 trade value in all of baseball.
Meh if he does it is only because of whatever his contract is.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:51 pm to Lester Earl
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Yes he has more power than mike trout
I didnt ask if he had more power than Trout. I asked if he was a better power hitter. He's not.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:53 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Meh if he does it is only because of whatever his contract is.
Yup, youre exactly right....also because of ummmmm.....what's the word? POTENTIAL. Which is really the only point I was trying to make.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 3:10 pm to dnm3305
Ignoring contract Harper Puig Goldschmidt Machado McCutchen Simmons Posey Trout Rockies CarGo etc have better trade value than Stanton.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 3:25 pm to dnm3305
How is trout a better power hitter?
You care to look at their HR's per AB?
You care to look at their HR's per AB?
Posted on 4/30/14 at 3:34 pm to dnm3305
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And you consider Stanton on that level right now? I specifically said he wasnt ELITE YET.
Uh, yeah.
21 y/o- He was 2nd in the NL in AB/HR in 2011 (6th in MLB)
22 y/o- Led the MLB in 2012. Also led in SLG%
23 y/o- 4th in the NL last season (12th in MLB)
9th fastest EVER to 100 HR
10th youngest EVER to 100 HR
And the dude plays in a pitcher friendly park.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 3:59 pm to GynoSandberg
I wish the Astros had a 1-2 punch. Hell they don't have any fricking punch. 
Posted on 4/30/14 at 4:04 pm to GynoSandberg
Yeaah I think some people are downplaying the fact that at 24 years old Stanton currently has 125 career HRs. Let's say he does finish this season hitting 40 then that's 157 before he turns 25 in November.
If you question his ability as a power hitter. Go find the highlight of him last night crushing a outside off speed pitch to opposite field.
If you question his ability as a power hitter. Go find the highlight of him last night crushing a outside off speed pitch to opposite field.
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:09 pm to chrisksaint
my top 5 would probably be
trout/skaggs
giancarlo/fernandez
harper/stras
cutch/cole
simmons/teheran
i might have harper/stras second if harper was healthy
trout/skaggs
giancarlo/fernandez
harper/stras
cutch/cole
simmons/teheran
i might have harper/stras second if harper was healthy
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:10 pm to GynoSandberg
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Johnny Cueto?
Since 2011 pitchers with 400IP Cueto is 2nd best in ERA+ (161) to Kershaw (168). That's when he's healthy. He's elite just not somebody I would want to start a team with for the future.
The correct answer is the Marlins
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 4/30/14 at 7:22 pm to GynoSandberg
Rand Johnson and Luis Gonzalez
Posted on 4/30/14 at 7:23 pm to Bama Bird
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Justin Verlander and Miguel Cabrera
This is a NO BRAINER...........
Posted on 4/30/14 at 8:38 pm to Bama Bird
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Justin Verlander and Miguel Cabrera
Posted on 4/30/14 at 8:49 pm to tzimme4
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trout/skaggs
Richards > Skaggs
if you're going to go with a Angel pitcher IMO
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Since 2011 pitchers with 400IP Cueto is 2nd best in ERA+ (161) to Kershaw (168). That's when he's healthy. He's elite just not somebody I would want to start a team with for the future.
Mark Prior was elite when he was healthy, too.
400 IP?
The Kershaw, Verlanders, Cliff Lees of the world have thrown almost 700 innings in that span. Cueto is no good if he isn't healthy. He has thrown 200 innings once in 6 seasons.
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 8:51 pm
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