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re: You are starting an NFL franchise from scratch. Which QB do you want?

Posted on 1/30/17 at 9:14 am to
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 9:14 am to
In this order:

Cam
Jameis
Wilson
Dak
Cousins
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 9:23 am to
Don't understand the Cam votes



Has ONE great season. ONE. Then reverts back to his usual middle of the pack play that he had every other season. he's laughably inaccurate and inefficient. What he's best at is using his legs, won't be long before he can't rely on that. Oh, and he's mentally weak.
This post was edited on 1/30/17 at 9:24 am
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 10:01 am to
Wilson


Cam
Jamesis
Dak

Cousins

Dak can move up next year, but it's hard for me to put him above Cam and Jamesis because of just how good they offensive line is.
Posted by Trump4LSU
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2016
366 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:29 am to
Dak
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11128 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:13 pm to
Is it just from that group or just NFC guys? I'd like Carson Wentz. He looked great in flashes, on a team with few weapons, is young and relatively cheap. Kid has crazy potential..
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31841 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:08 pm to
Wentz is going to be somewhere between Flacco and Ryan. Not elite but top 10 at his peak.
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8697 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Is it just from that group or just NFC guys? I'd like Carson Wentz. He looked great in flashes, on a team with few weapons, is young and relatively cheap. Kid has crazy potential..


You'd pick Wentz after one mediocre rookie season over all those guys?

If so, I question your sanity.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11128 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 3:06 pm to
Dak only has one season and Winston only has two. If I'm picking young NFC QBs, it'd be inbetween those 3 (Wentz, Prescott and Winston). Wilson, Newton and Cousins are all 20M+ a year guys. I'd take the bargain guys for the next 3-4 seasons and spend that money elsewhere.

Prescott is going to get the big money before Wentz and Winston's personal escapades scare me. I'd go with the safe, cheap bet..
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
215974 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 4:20 pm to
IMO if Cam was on this years Cowboys team, they would be playing this Sunday.
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

IMO if Cam was on this years Cowboys team, they would be playing this Sunday.




Maybe, but then he'd choke in the Superbowl
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92616 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 5:24 pm to
What makes you think that if he didn't choke last time?
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21678 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 5:26 pm to
DAK
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92616 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

CocoLoco
vs the 2015 Denver Broncos defense

Aaron Rodgers
14/22
77 yards
0 touchdowns
0 interceptions
3 sacks
69.7 rating

Derek Carr
26/39
249 yards
1 touchdown
1 interception
4 sacks
82.1 rating

Tom Brady
27/56
310 yards
1 touchdown
2 interceptions
4 sacks
56.4 rating

Cam Newton
18/41
265 yards
0 touchdowns
1 interception
6 sacks
55.4 rating

Phillip Rivers
18/35
202 yards
0 touchdowns
1 interception
4 sacks
57.1 rating

Matthew Stafford
31/45
282 yards
1 touchdown
2 interceptions
4 sacks
74.5 rating

Joe Flacco
18/32
117 yards
0 touchdowns
2 interceptions
2 sacks
38.2 rating

Alex Smith
16/25
191 yards
0 touchdowns
2 interceptions
4 sacks
53.9 rating

Josh McCown
20/29
213 yards
2 touchdowns
2 interceptions
4 sacks
63.3 rating

What Denver's defense did to Cam Newton was the norm in 2015, especially down the stretch when that defense just dominated opposing offenses. The last 2 games of the year were the most complete games all season, just about.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
90132 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 5:56 pm to
Dak, because of his attitude.
Posted by maburu2
Member since Mar 2008
4715 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:10 pm to
If I can take any body, it would be Derek Carr.

From this list, Cam is the only MVP on this list.
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:16 pm to
Let's look at Cams years outside of the MVP year.

Middle of the pack QB. Anyone thinking he's top tier is kidding themselves. His accuracy is godawful
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70553 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:23 pm to
Carr
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
78748 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:26 pm to
Dak.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27221 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 7:28 pm to
Romo
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