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re: Yahoo: Renegade Miami football booster spells out illicit benefits to players
Posted on 8/17/11 at 12:31 am to MikeyFL
Posted on 8/17/11 at 12:31 am to MikeyFL
Breakdown of the bounties
Jon Beason
$400 for eight tackles in Miami's 31-21 against Virginia on Nov. 13, 2004
$250 for a sack in that same game
$500 for a hit on Colorado's quarterback during the return of a fumbled snap in a game on Sept. 24, 2005
Orlando Franklin
Undisclosed amounts of money for "plays against defensive linemen"
Jason Geathers
$250 for scoring the game-winning touchdown in Miami's 28-27 victory over FSU on Oct. 12, 2002 (aka Wide Left I)
Cornelius Green
$500 for holding Tennessee to a field goal after the Volunteers were at the Miami four-yard line on first down on their first drive of the game on Nov. 9, 2002
Orien Harris
$250 for recovering a fumble in Miami's 27-7 road victory over Virginia Tech on Nov. 5, 2005
Devin Hester
$500 for opening Miami's 38-33 win over Florida on Sept. 6, 2003 with a kickoff return for a touchdown
$500 for an excessive celebration penalty on that same play
$2,000 total for two punt return touchdowns against Louisiana Tech
$500 for a celebration penalty on one of those returns against La. Tech
$1,000 for a kickoff return touchdown against Louisville in Miami's 41-38 win in 2004 (the touchdown was called back)
$1,000 for a punt return touchdown in that same game
$1,000 for a kickoff return touchdown to open the game versus NC State in a 45-31 victory on Oct. 23, 2004
$1,000 for a touchdown return of a blocked field goal in Miami's 27-10 victory over Florida in the 2004 Peach Bowl. Curiously, Devin was not rewarded for his excessive celebration penalty on that play
Willis McGahee
$1,000 for 234 yards rushing in Miami's 41-16 victory over Florida on Sept. 7, 2002
$500 for a touchdown in Miami's 28-27 victory over FSU on Oct. 12, 2002
$500 for 173 yards rushing and receiving in that same game
Rocky McIntosh
$500 for two sacks and a fumble recovery in Miami's 27-7 victory over Virginia Tech on Nov. 5, 2005
Javon Nanton
$250 for a sack in Miami's 27-7 victory over Virginia Tech on Nov. 5, 2005
Antrel Rolle
$1,000 for "shutting down" Georgia Tech wide receiver Calvin Johnson in Miami's 27-3 victory over Georgia Tech on Oct. 2, 2004
$500 for an interception in Miami's 41-38 victory over Louisville on Oct. 14, 2004
Sean Taylor
$1,000 for two interceptions against FSU in Miami's 22-14 victory on Oct. 11, 2003
$1,000 for a defensive touchdown in the same game
$1,000 for a hit on Chris Rix
Jon Vilma
$1,000 for a hit and personal foul on Chris Rix in Miami's 28-27 win on Oct. 12, 2002
$250 for a sack in Miami's 38-33 victory over Florida on Sept. 6, 2003
$1,000 for a hit on Rix in Miami's Orange Bowl victory over FSU on Jan. 1, 2004
Vince Wilfork
$500 for a sack and unsportsmanlike conduct foul in Miami's 41-16 victory over Florida on Sept. 7, 2002
$250 for a sack in Miami's 38-33 victory over Florida on Sept. 6, 2003
$500 for a fumble recovery in Miami's 22-14 victory over FSU on Oct. 11, 2003
D.J Williams
$250 for a sack in Miami's 38-33 victory over Florida on Sept. 6, 2003
The total: $20,650
Expenses per game, ordered most expensive to least:
Miami 22 FSU 14; Oct. 11, 2003: $3,500
Miami 48 La. Tech 0; Sept. 18, 2004: $2,500
Miami 41 Louisville 38; Oct. 14, 2004: $2,500
Miami 28 FSU 27; Oct. 12, 2002: $2,250
Miami 38 UF 33; Sept. 6, 2003: $1,750
Miami 41 UF 16; Sept. 7, 2002: $1,500
Miami 27 VT 7; Nov. 5, 2005: $1,000
Miami 21 UF 10; Dec. 31, 2004: $1,000
Miami 16 FSU 14; Jan. 1, 2004: $1,000
Miami 45 NC St 31; Oct. 23, 2004: $1,000
Miami 27 GT 3; Oct. 2, 2004: $1,000
Miami 31 UVA 21; Nov. 13, 2004: $650
Miami 23 Colo 3; Sept. 24, 2005: $500
Miami 26 Tenn 3; Nov. 9, 2002: $500
Jon Beason
$400 for eight tackles in Miami's 31-21 against Virginia on Nov. 13, 2004
$250 for a sack in that same game
$500 for a hit on Colorado's quarterback during the return of a fumbled snap in a game on Sept. 24, 2005
Orlando Franklin
Undisclosed amounts of money for "plays against defensive linemen"
Jason Geathers
$250 for scoring the game-winning touchdown in Miami's 28-27 victory over FSU on Oct. 12, 2002 (aka Wide Left I)
Cornelius Green
$500 for holding Tennessee to a field goal after the Volunteers were at the Miami four-yard line on first down on their first drive of the game on Nov. 9, 2002
Orien Harris
$250 for recovering a fumble in Miami's 27-7 road victory over Virginia Tech on Nov. 5, 2005
Devin Hester
$500 for opening Miami's 38-33 win over Florida on Sept. 6, 2003 with a kickoff return for a touchdown
$500 for an excessive celebration penalty on that same play
$2,000 total for two punt return touchdowns against Louisiana Tech
$500 for a celebration penalty on one of those returns against La. Tech
$1,000 for a kickoff return touchdown against Louisville in Miami's 41-38 win in 2004 (the touchdown was called back)
$1,000 for a punt return touchdown in that same game
$1,000 for a kickoff return touchdown to open the game versus NC State in a 45-31 victory on Oct. 23, 2004
$1,000 for a touchdown return of a blocked field goal in Miami's 27-10 victory over Florida in the 2004 Peach Bowl. Curiously, Devin was not rewarded for his excessive celebration penalty on that play
Willis McGahee
$1,000 for 234 yards rushing in Miami's 41-16 victory over Florida on Sept. 7, 2002
$500 for a touchdown in Miami's 28-27 victory over FSU on Oct. 12, 2002
$500 for 173 yards rushing and receiving in that same game
Rocky McIntosh
$500 for two sacks and a fumble recovery in Miami's 27-7 victory over Virginia Tech on Nov. 5, 2005
Javon Nanton
$250 for a sack in Miami's 27-7 victory over Virginia Tech on Nov. 5, 2005
Antrel Rolle
$1,000 for "shutting down" Georgia Tech wide receiver Calvin Johnson in Miami's 27-3 victory over Georgia Tech on Oct. 2, 2004
$500 for an interception in Miami's 41-38 victory over Louisville on Oct. 14, 2004
Sean Taylor
$1,000 for two interceptions against FSU in Miami's 22-14 victory on Oct. 11, 2003
$1,000 for a defensive touchdown in the same game
$1,000 for a hit on Chris Rix
Jon Vilma
$1,000 for a hit and personal foul on Chris Rix in Miami's 28-27 win on Oct. 12, 2002
$250 for a sack in Miami's 38-33 victory over Florida on Sept. 6, 2003
$1,000 for a hit on Rix in Miami's Orange Bowl victory over FSU on Jan. 1, 2004
Vince Wilfork
$500 for a sack and unsportsmanlike conduct foul in Miami's 41-16 victory over Florida on Sept. 7, 2002
$250 for a sack in Miami's 38-33 victory over Florida on Sept. 6, 2003
$500 for a fumble recovery in Miami's 22-14 victory over FSU on Oct. 11, 2003
D.J Williams
$250 for a sack in Miami's 38-33 victory over Florida on Sept. 6, 2003
The total: $20,650
Expenses per game, ordered most expensive to least:
Miami 22 FSU 14; Oct. 11, 2003: $3,500
Miami 48 La. Tech 0; Sept. 18, 2004: $2,500
Miami 41 Louisville 38; Oct. 14, 2004: $2,500
Miami 28 FSU 27; Oct. 12, 2002: $2,250
Miami 38 UF 33; Sept. 6, 2003: $1,750
Miami 41 UF 16; Sept. 7, 2002: $1,500
Miami 27 VT 7; Nov. 5, 2005: $1,000
Miami 21 UF 10; Dec. 31, 2004: $1,000
Miami 16 FSU 14; Jan. 1, 2004: $1,000
Miami 45 NC St 31; Oct. 23, 2004: $1,000
Miami 27 GT 3; Oct. 2, 2004: $1,000
Miami 31 UVA 21; Nov. 13, 2004: $650
Miami 23 Colo 3; Sept. 24, 2005: $500
Miami 26 Tenn 3; Nov. 9, 2002: $500
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Posted on 8/17/11 at 12:33 am to PeterPan
Posted on 8/17/11 at 12:33 am to MikeyFL
quote:
With any luck, we'll have a renewal of the Miami / Florida International "rivalry" ... only with Florida International paying Miami to play them.
FIU moved on up to FBS in 2005.
But they could still play... a demoted Miami would be happy to play them again, I'm sure.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 12:36 am to RLDSC FAN
quote:
They'll never give the death penalty again.
I agree. They'll hammer them with hefty scholarship reductions and I could see them add the TV ban for a few years. To ban a team from being on TV for a while would be pretty devastating to the program.
But I think there is what, a 4 year statute of limitations? If so, then all the illegal activity done in the mid 2000's may escape scrunity. In that senario, they appear to avoid a hell of a lot of damage, but still enough to probably level the most severe penalties we have seen since SMU, but will stop short of the death penalty. The fact that so much of the evidence can easily be substantiated is really scary for Miami.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 12:40 am to Tiger in Texas
they may be exempt from the statute. read like the third or forth paragraph.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 12:53 am to Henry Jones Jr
quote:
So any chance Da U gets the "death penalty" for this?
I don't think there is anything else you can do. If USC gets a 2 year bowl ban and 30 something lost schollys for the actions of 1 player, what would Miami get for millions of benefits for over 70 players with several coaches directly implicated? This is much, much worse than even SMU.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:01 am to Monticello
ESPN - in bed with conferences financially (failing on this story) - NCAA disparate treatment of member schools and failing to follow precedent. Everyone just making it up as they go along...the only good thing that could come out of this would not be the U being hammered but NCAA reform on oversight, TV contracts and the corruption inherent in the system...at the top.
"Really just shows you what a "club" the NCAA really is, a membership that uses own members to monitor itself.."
"Really just shows you what a "club" the NCAA really is, a membership that uses own members to monitor itself.."
quote:
See if this sounds familiar: "We didn't have any suspicion that he was doing anything like this. "He didn't do anything to cause concern."
I'm fairly certain I heard Pete Carroll say something to that effect, repeatedly, about Bush's time at USC. He insisted there's no way he or anyone else at the school could have known that Bush's parents were living the high life in San Diego -- a defense Dee and his committee sharply rebuked.
But no, those were the words of Dee himself, Tuesday, to the Palm Beach Post, in regards to Shapiro's allegations. Seriously. The same guy whose committee lamented the access outsiders had to the Trojans' locker room and sidelines also told the Post that, " [Shapiro] would come by, ask to go out to practice and we would send one of our staffers to accompany him."
You can't make this stuff up.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:01 am to pdxlsufan
quote:
I've got a better idea -- let them keep football but demote them to FCS while keeping them ineligible from the postseason. FCS teams are rarely on TV anyway and it seriously neuter their program without outright killing it.
Reduce their scholarships pretty significantly and I really like this idea
Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:17 am to The Nino
Louisville better fire Hurtt tomorrow first thing if they know what's good for them. Half their last couple classes are Miami kids to boot.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:34 am to MattFlynnRox
quote:
Yet, when Robinson and Yahoo spend months on end to make sure to dot the i's and cross the t's, then ESPN basically sits on its hands.
ESPN is in the business of promoting ESPN.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:42 am to RLDSC FAN
quote:
I agree. They'll hammer them with hefty scholarship reductions and I could see them add the TV ban for a few years. To ban a team from being on TV for a while would be pretty devastating to the program.
If all this pans out, Miami may can the program for a couple of years with no outside coersion.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
This crap is beyond just giving these players a monthly stipend to play in college. So now should universities give these kids access to strippers and prostitutes so they can stop breaking the rules?
Posted on 8/17/11 at 1:56 am to siliconvalleytiger
They sure are optimistic over on their Scout board. I don't see how there is any way they get out of this without canning their program for a few years at least. I never thought I'd say it, but I think they need the death penalty. At least move them to FCS. Something. The bounties on hurting opposing players is the biggest deal by far IMO.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 2:04 am to busey
If Miami gets out of this without the "death penalty" then the NCAA owes SMU a big apology and a whole lot of $$$.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 2:35 am to GeauxBayouBengals
Anyone else feel like they should have left Sean Taylor's name off the list?
Posted on 8/17/11 at 2:48 am to busey
well when you bet on pee wee football games, etc. it's part of the culture...
in the next few years of college football, USC, Auburn, Miami, Ohio State, and North Carolina are all gonna be neutered by major violations
personally the U has the reputation for this, but i'll root for them if they keep being the U and not any other team. they just have to keep their on field persona on the field. CFB needs a team that will dress in army fatigues, get 200 yards in excessive celebration penalties because we can't all like joe paterno types
for people that know about having a family, you don't abandon someone in their time of need. the miami players should have been there for him if they were going to partake in all the favors he gave them.
as for why they've dropped in football, the secret got out. miami has athletes in places like northwestern high school, and everyone else is recruiting there now. greg schiano built a career on south fla recruits, and now every major program in the country recruits there. also south FLA has added 4 FBS programs in the last 20 years. i know none of them are on miami's level but they might get a kid or two that are
in the next few years of college football, USC, Auburn, Miami, Ohio State, and North Carolina are all gonna be neutered by major violations
personally the U has the reputation for this, but i'll root for them if they keep being the U and not any other team. they just have to keep their on field persona on the field. CFB needs a team that will dress in army fatigues, get 200 yards in excessive celebration penalties because we can't all like joe paterno types
for people that know about having a family, you don't abandon someone in their time of need. the miami players should have been there for him if they were going to partake in all the favors he gave them.
as for why they've dropped in football, the secret got out. miami has athletes in places like northwestern high school, and everyone else is recruiting there now. greg schiano built a career on south fla recruits, and now every major program in the country recruits there. also south FLA has added 4 FBS programs in the last 20 years. i know none of them are on miami's level but they might get a kid or two that are
Posted on 8/17/11 at 4:22 am to chalmetteowl
"We didn't have any suspicion that he was doing anything like this," said Dee, UM's athletic director from 1993 to 2008.
Well I guess you "should have known", huh, you f*cking fat arse. "High profile players demand high profile compliance", right, fatty fatty fat fat? God damn this guy makes me sick.
Well I guess you "should have known", huh, you f*cking fat arse. "High profile players demand high profile compliance", right, fatty fatty fat fat? God damn this guy makes me sick.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 4:22 am to Tiger in Texas
quote:
But I think there is what, a 4 year statute of limitations? If so, then all the illegal activity done in the mid 2000's may escape scrunity. In that senario, they appear to avoid a hell of a lot of damage, but still enough to probably level the most severe penalties we have seen since SMU, but will stop short of the death penalty. The fact that so much of the evidence can easily be substantiated is really scary for Miami.
There is, unless the same infractions go back further (as the story points out). Which in this case they do. So the NCAA can basically go back as far as they can find evidence.
Also:
LINK
Miami was already on probation during this time, for being a repeat violator. Basically any major infractions that happened between 2003 and 2008 would be repeat violator status and anything between 2003 and 2005 would have been while still on probation... should the NCAA decide to connect dots back that far.
This post was edited on 8/17/11 at 4:24 am
Posted on 8/17/11 at 5:57 am to huskers9
From twitter:
quote:
About time an ACC team beat an SEC team in something, even if it is violations
Posted on 8/17/11 at 6:55 am to smash williams
quote:
Anyone else feel like they should have left Sean Taylor's name off the list?
100% no.
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