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WTF is up with NASCAR
Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:00 pm
I used to love NASCAR, grew up watching the Earnhardt, Gordon, Jarrett, Martin, Wallace, Waltrip, etc…
Been to quite a few races including Talladega, Daytona, and Atlanta. Lost some interest during college (and most of the Johnson years thereafter), but still enjoyed casually watching here and there, especially Talladega and Daytona.
The Chase was the first thing that started to turn me off, but I don’t even understand what’s going on anymore when I turn it on. The stages and today I just flipped on qualifying as nothing else was on and I’m seeing this final round qualifying BS. I get the old twin one 125s for Daytona, but seems like too much nonsense these days.
I fear F1 is doing some of this foolishness these days as well with the occasional sprint race.
Anyone else turned off by all the (IMO unnecessary) changes and gimmicks?
Been to quite a few races including Talladega, Daytona, and Atlanta. Lost some interest during college (and most of the Johnson years thereafter), but still enjoyed casually watching here and there, especially Talladega and Daytona.
The Chase was the first thing that started to turn me off, but I don’t even understand what’s going on anymore when I turn it on. The stages and today I just flipped on qualifying as nothing else was on and I’m seeing this final round qualifying BS. I get the old twin one 125s for Daytona, but seems like too much nonsense these days.
I fear F1 is doing some of this foolishness these days as well with the occasional sprint race.
Anyone else turned off by all the (IMO unnecessary) changes and gimmicks?
Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:04 pm to tylerlsu2008
Get rid of:
Stages
Competition cautions
Rigid uniformity of vehicle design - there's barely any difference in the vehicles and its essentially all driver and not team/design + driver
Playoffs
Stages
Competition cautions
Rigid uniformity of vehicle design - there's barely any difference in the vehicles and its essentially all driver and not team/design + driver
Playoffs
Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:09 pm to tylerlsu2008
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Anyone else turned off by all the (IMO unnecessary) changes and gimmicks?
I stopped watching after Dale Jr retired, the only exception is watching the Daytona 500. EPL is in full swing and the majority of the games are on Peacock; NASCAR is on too many networks in order to follow cohesively.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:13 pm to bad93ex
I was fortunate to go to Talladega and Daytona several times as a kid in the 1998-2001 time period. Man, that was peak NASCAR or close to it.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:16 pm to tylerlsu2008
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was fortunate to go to Talladega and Daytona several times as a kid in the 1998-2001 time period. Man, that was peak NASCAR or close to it.
I heard it was one massive party for Dega and Daytona. I’m starting to believe that the downfall of NASCAR is congruent with the erosion of the middle class.
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:17 pm to bad93ex
The debauchery in the Dega infield is legendary. 

Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:17 pm to bad93ex
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stopped watching after Dale Jr retired, the only exception is watching the Daytona 500. EPL is in full swing and the majority of the games are on Peacock; NASCAR is on too many networks in order to follow cohesively.
Today I learned that a soccer fan can also be a nascar fan, and that unicorns are indeed real.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:23 pm to tylerlsu2008
Late 90’s was definitely peak NASCAR. Everything has been downhill since Earnhardt died and instead of correcting missteps, NASCAR leadership continues to double down and even expand on those bad ideas. I can’t tell you the last race I watched.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:37 pm to BamaCoaster
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Today I learned that a soccer fan can also be a nascar fan, and that unicorns are indeed real.
shite, I probably follow soccer and NASCAR more closely than the NFL these days.

Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:39 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
The Chicago street race last week was really good.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:41 pm to tylerlsu2008
NASCAR abandoned their core audience sometime in the mid-late 2000s and started chasing an audience that was never going to watch anyways. They haven't really recovered, IMO.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:45 pm to tylerlsu2008
NASCAR ain’t that bad right now, but it’s never really been all that good. You’re just waxing nostalgic.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:12 pm to bad93ex
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I heard it was one massive party for Dega and Daytona.
No doubt about Talladega. A buddy of mine and me went back in the late 80's and spent the night in line to get into the infield and that night was some of the wildest shite I've ever been a part of. Those folks were partying hard man, including me
Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:14 pm to BamaCoaster
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Today I learned that a soccer fan can also be a nascar fan, and that unicorns are indeed real
shite, I may can beat that. I regularly flip back and forth between NASCAR and golf.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:23 pm to tylerlsu2008
NASCAR since the early 1990s has had the goal … some including me would call it the delusion … of becoming not just the No. 1 racing series, but a co-equal major league sport to the NFL, MLB, the NBA and the NHL. I literally heard those words come out of the mouth of one of their marketing people in the press box at Talladega about 1993 or so.
They don’t think they can do that with a fan base of lower to middle class conservative white men from the South and the rural Midwest. It’s that simple. If y’all want to call that “woke,” I guess you can call it “woke.”
They don’t think they can do that with a fan base of lower to middle class conservative white men from the South and the rural Midwest. It’s that simple. If y’all want to call that “woke,” I guess you can call it “woke.”
Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:27 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
True story, I swear to God.
Some friends and I were in the Talladega infield for the 1976 Winston 500 and this dude came wandering up, filthy stinking dirty with no shirt or shoes. We struck a conversation with him and he said, “The last thing I remember I was tripping on LSD and I woke up here.”
Some friends and I were in the Talladega infield for the 1976 Winston 500 and this dude came wandering up, filthy stinking dirty with no shirt or shoes. We struck a conversation with him and he said, “The last thing I remember I was tripping on LSD and I woke up here.”
Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:31 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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The debauchery in the Dega infield is legendary.
I hear they’re really into buttholes there
Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:33 pm to tylerlsu2008
Here’s an example of how things have changed. Kyle Busch just put his house on Lake Norman in N.C., which includes a private beach, up for sale for $13 million. Dave Marcis, one of the most respected men in NASCAR, lived in a 14x70 house trailer until 1992.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:35 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
I’m white and grew up watching Dale. NASCAR hates me so they didn’t make an attempt to market the race to my demo.
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