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Wouldn't it have been easier for the Big 10 to just split teams
Posted on 12/13/10 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 12/13/10 at 5:29 pm
based on geography? Just have a North and South division.
North
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Northwestern
Penn State
Wisconsin
South
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Nebraska
Ohio State
Purdue
I just checked all the team's winning percentages in the poll era and it's pretty similar. The North teams have a winning percentage of 57.15%. The South teams have a winning percentage of 55.27% during that same time period. The divisions are pretty evenly matched and coming up with the names for the divisions would have been a lot easier.
North
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Northwestern
Penn State
Wisconsin
South
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Nebraska
Ohio State
Purdue
I just checked all the team's winning percentages in the poll era and it's pretty similar. The North teams have a winning percentage of 57.15%. The South teams have a winning percentage of 55.27% during that same time period. The divisions are pretty evenly matched and coming up with the names for the divisions would have been a lot easier.
This post was edited on 12/13/10 at 5:30 pm
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Posted on 12/13/10 at 5:33 pm to Bench McElroy
East/West in my opinion would have been best and kept the most natural rivalries. But whatever.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 5:35 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
I even liked the Plains/Lakes idea. Habe all the teams near the Great Lakes in one division and the "periphery" schools in another. Always, always, ALWAYS make your divisions geographical if you can.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 5:36 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
quote:
East/West in my opinion would have been best and kept the most natural rivalries. But whatever.
Yeah but the balance of power would have been ridiculously stacked in favor of the east. Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State in the same division. Forget about it. And a team like Michigan State would pretty much have zero chance of ever winning that division.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 5:45 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:
Yeah but the balance of power would have been ridiculously stacked in favor of the east. Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State in the same division. Forget about it. And a team like Michigan State would pretty much have zero chance of ever winning that division.
The balance of power will always change over time. Look how West-heavy the SEC was this year as opposed to 2001 when it was East-heavy.
And there will always be some teams who pretty much never win the division. Kentucky, Vandy, Ole Miss in the SEC; Baylor and OK State in the Big XII.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 5:49 pm to Bench McElroy
Tony Kornheiser on PTI said they should be
SEC Victims / Future SEC Victims
SEC Victims / Future SEC Victims
Posted on 12/13/10 at 6:33 pm to Cabby
quote:
Tony Kornheiser on PTI said they should be
SEC Victims / Future SEC Victims
thats the misconception that really pisses me off.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 6:38 pm to Cabby
quote:
Tony Kornheiser on PTI said they should be
SEC Victims / Future SEC Victims
Actually, I think he was reading an email, still funny though.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 6:41 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:
North
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Northwestern
Penn State
Wisconsin
The NORTH is LOADED and will be for some time.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 7:11 pm to dukke v
quote:
NORTH is LOADED
quote:
Michigan
not good right now, and has some recovering to do. I don't doubt they'll be back, but it'll be a few years.
quote:
Michigan State
playing over their heads this year; they'll be back to mediocrity soon enough.
quote:
Minnesota
lolwut?
quote:
Northwestern
lolwut?
Posted on 12/13/10 at 7:18 pm to medtiger
northwestern would give most teams in the country a run for their money
Posted on 12/13/10 at 9:32 pm to Bench McElroy
Tried to give Ohio State an even easier way to the Natl Champ.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 9:34 pm to Bench McElroy
picking names out of a hat would be better than what they decided on
Posted on 12/13/10 at 10:40 pm to Bench McElroy
I keep wondering if it wouldn't be ok for the Big Ten (or any 12-team conference, for that matter) to go without divisions and just have the top two duke it out for the title.
The Big Televen has each of its teams play two permanent rivals with six rotating slots. What if there were no divisions and simply a third permanent rival added?
(Nebraska excluded, the first two schools listed after each school are the current permanent rivals; the third is my hypothetical third. I gave Nebraska Iowa since they border and have some history, and I also gave Nebraska the two newest members of the Big Ten so that the three n00bs would play every year.)
Illinois - NW - IN - PU
Indiana - PU - IL - OSU
Iowa - MN - WI - NE
Michigan - OSU - MSU - MN
Michigan State - MI - PSU - NE
Minnesota - IA - WI - MI
Nebraska - IA - PSU - MSU
Northwestern - IL - PU - WI
Ohio State - MI - PSU - IN
Penn State - OSU - MSU - NE
Purdue - IN - NW - IL
Wisconsin - IA - MN - NW
The Big Televen has each of its teams play two permanent rivals with six rotating slots. What if there were no divisions and simply a third permanent rival added?
(Nebraska excluded, the first two schools listed after each school are the current permanent rivals; the third is my hypothetical third. I gave Nebraska Iowa since they border and have some history, and I also gave Nebraska the two newest members of the Big Ten so that the three n00bs would play every year.)
Illinois - NW - IN - PU
Indiana - PU - IL - OSU
Iowa - MN - WI - NE
Michigan - OSU - MSU - MN
Michigan State - MI - PSU - NE
Minnesota - IA - WI - MI
Nebraska - IA - PSU - MSU
Northwestern - IL - PU - WI
Ohio State - MI - PSU - IN
Penn State - OSU - MSU - NE
Purdue - IN - NW - IL
Wisconsin - IA - MN - NW
Posted on 12/13/10 at 10:47 pm to finallyfastohio
quote:
northwestern would give most teams in the country a run for their money
not w/ persa's ruptured achilles.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 10:51 pm to finallyfastohio
quote:
northwestern would give most teams in the country a run for their money
If by most teams you mean most of the teams outside of the top 25, then yeah, I guess.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 10:52 pm to Bench McElroy
East/West would have worked better. Neb, N'Western, Wisky, Minny, Illinois in West
Posted on 12/13/10 at 11:02 pm to Esarhaddon
quote:+Iowa
East/West would have worked better. Neb, N'Western, Wisky, Minny, Illinois in West
East: Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue
West: Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Wisconsin
Posted on 12/13/10 at 11:37 pm to xiv
That wouldn't work. Michigan and Ohio state have to be able to meet in the championship game.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 11:44 pm to Joe
quote:Florida State and Miami have to be able to meet in the championship game.
That wouldn't work. Michigan and Ohio state have to be able to meet in the championship game.
Trying to engineer a specific championship game can make a conference look stupid.
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