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re: Woj Bomb: Ainge stepping down from Celtics, Brad Stevens moving up
Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:57 am to BilJ
Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:57 am to BilJ
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Ainge seem to get a full of himself and became the guy no one even wanted to look at offers from because he didn't want to deal unless he was blatantly fricking you.
I was thinking that. It’s a small league, that strategy can’t work out well in the long run. Especially when it looks like they need to shake up this roster.
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:57 am to WB504
Brown and Tatum just don’t play well together.
The sooner they start building around Tatum, the better off they will be. Trade Brown and Kemba for assets and be ok with sucking for a few years. I don’t see any other way they can compete with the big 3 in the East with the roster they have now.
The sooner they start building around Tatum, the better off they will be. Trade Brown and Kemba for assets and be ok with sucking for a few years. I don’t see any other way they can compete with the big 3 in the East with the roster they have now.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:00 am to CatfishJohn
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There goes the Brad Stevens to Duke rumors
And now shitty do Indiana fans feel knowing they threw the kitchen sink at him and he still didn’t go?
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:02 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Yeah I get the new direction from ainge part of it. I think a lot of those assets not panning out can be attributed to bad luck, like Kyrie and like Hayword, but that’s how these things roll
But to hear some people spin it, you’d think they were the Kings.
But to hear some people spin it, you’d think they were the Kings.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:03 am to WicKed WayZ
I agree I would do a mini-rebuild in Boston around Tatum, trade or get rid of everything except him and spend 2 years getting things right.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:07 am to Fun Bunch
If they trade Brown I feel like you’d have Taytum asking out less than a calendar year later
I wouldn’t be too eager to flip my second best asset just to make a move. Kemba is locking in your ceiling either way so unless you get a haul or a superstar In return I doubt a brown trade makes them better
I wouldn’t be too eager to flip my second best asset just to make a move. Kemba is locking in your ceiling either way so unless you get a haul or a superstar In return I doubt a brown trade makes them better
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:09 am to wildtigercat93
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If they trade Brown I feel like you’d have Taytum asking out less than a calendar year later
Yeah, the people saying they should trade Brown for picks/assets to re-tool because they can't compete with the top teams in the East don't know how the NBA works right now.
If you have a star and aren't moving towards competing then you're about to have a disgruntled star and soon after, no star.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:12 am to WB504
I’d love to know wtf is happening behind the scenes
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:19 am to SLafourche07
Brown is 24 and Tatum is 23. They’d be stupid to trade either of them.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:29 am to WB504
Bill Simmons to Boston
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:33 am to WB504
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Guess someone has to be the scapegoat
He assembled the team and wasted most of the assets they had over the years. He's not a scapegoat. He's the one at fault. Full stop.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:58 am to PrimeTime Money
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Brown is 24 and Tatum is 23. They’d be stupid to trade either of them.
I don’t think they’d be trading either for guys over 30. If there was a great trade out there for them I think they should explore it. They’re very similar players and one is clearly better than the other so I think there’s some diminishing returns with having both.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:00 am to bwallcubfan
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Bill Simmons to Boston
"Here's a hypothetical. Would you say no to six-way trade involving Brown and Tatum for Dame Lillard, Tyler Herro, six draft picks, and a distressed Vegas casino?"
"I'll throw in Marcus Smart for a new parquet floor."
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 11:03 am
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:01 am to Boomshockalocka
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Danny screwed the pooch. That team was set to compete for titles for years a half decade ago but they Never came close.
I honestly don't know what Ainge could have done any better than he did. He got Tatum and Brown, signed Hayward, got Kyrie. He tried really hard, but he could never get a huge free agent because of the Boston stigma and could never land the #1 pick in the draft when there was a franchise player available at #1.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:21 am to floridatigah
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If there was a great trade out there for them I think they should explore it.
Well sure, but without any context on what that potential trade could be, it’s kind of silly to just be like “they have to trade brown”
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:23 am to RedHawk
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I honestly don't know what Ainge could have done any better than he did. He got Tatum and Brown, signed Hayward, got Kyrie. He tried really hard, but he could never get a huge free agent because of the Boston stigma and could never land the #1 pick in the draft when there was a franchise player
available at #1.
Yeah I mean the Kemba signing was bad but a lot of his moves made sense at the time they happened. Just had a couple of really bad breaks with Kyrie and with Hayward
I understand he still has to pay the piper for the results but I think the perception is a little out of whack from what actually went down
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:24 am to wildtigercat93
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Well sure, but without any context on what that potential trade could be, it’s kind of silly to just be like “they have to trade brown”
Right and it’s kind of silly to do the opposite as well.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:28 am to RedHawk
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I honestly don't know what Ainge could have done any better than he did. He got Tatum and Brown, signed Hayward, got Kyrie. He tried really hard, but he could never get a huge free agent because of the Boston stigma and could never land the #1 pick in the draft when there was a franchise player available at #1.
The most fair criticism would be that he let Hayward, Kyrie, Rozier, and Horford walk and got nothing back. Hasn’t drafted well since taking Tatum. Probably should have used some assets for win now moves the last couple years.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:28 am to WB504
So Stevens doesn't want to coach anymore? I'm sure he hates coaching in the NBA with the diva players he has to deal with.
I would think he'd rather go back to college than an NBA front office gig, but idk.
I would think he'd rather go back to college than an NBA front office gig, but idk.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:33 am to Fun Bunch
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Or Brad came in with a plan and made a case against Ainge and what he would do differently. Pretty interesting.
To be fair, he’s not gonna have prime Lebron in his way...
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