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re: Will the Cajuns jump conferences within next 5 years?

Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by ragincajun03
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:16 pm to
Ray Authement specifically told coaches who they could and couldn’t solicit donations from.

He despised and complained signing athletic scholarship approvals. His supporters will say he was trying to keep academics afloat instead of worrying about athletics. But when you specifically tell your coaches they will be fired if they approach certain people about athletic donations, and you refuse to allow a fund be set up to take private athletic donations, then you are actively trying to kill the programs.

I wouldn’t piss on him if he were on fire. He was a self-serving politician, when it came down to it. He would have fit in very well within the halls of the LA Capitol.
Posted by CoastTrashTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:24 pm to
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LA tech is definitely a team people shouldn’t take lightly.


For a G5 school Tech has one of the better programs all-time. Obviously G5 head coaches want to move up, but they have had a good number of coaches move on and have success at the P5 level, at the very least they have done a pretty remarkable job the last 25 years with the number of coaches that have moved on and they continued to hire good up and coming coaches specifically offensive guys.

Posted by jennyjones
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:29 pm to
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I wouldn’t piss on him if he were on fire. He was a self-serving politician, when it came down to it. He would have fit in very well within the halls of the LA Capitol.


Authement and Blanco were as self serving as they could be. They both stuck around 20 years too long
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:34 pm to
Agreed. I loved watching Driskil there after he left Florida. He did so well in that Holtz offense. Trent Taylor was so good too! He had Patriots written all over him
Posted by CoastTrashTiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:35 pm to
I think Amazon/Netflix/Hulu/HBO all of the streaming service is the future. With Last Chance U, I think that has been a great introduction and they even said it, in 2016 it was one of their top stand alone shows regardless of genre that drove people to sign up on Netflix only for a particular show.

Actually talked about this the other day, it would be interesting to see the Sun Belt and C-USA come together in a sense and basically have their own regional G5 championship and playoffs on a streaming service. Netflix specifically has talked about how lacking they are in their sports section.

C-USA and the Sun Belt right now combined would have 26 schools would not be hard to find 6 more to get to 32 be strictly on a platform like Netflix. Could be a goldmine for them if they can sign up before the P5 conferences TV deals run out. I do not know what the Sun Belt and C-USA have in terms of national networks if they do.

Also it only helps the LSU football program to have strong ULL, ULM, and La Tech programs in state, Tulane doesnt really matter because of the kids they get and how the university operates. When the other 3 programs are rolling football at the high school/youth level would be that much better in those 3 areas.

Also the CajunDome is one of the nicest G5 arenas, very well done reno besides the floor but I get it stands out for publicity.

Just look alone at the growth of Georgia State, Ga Southern, and UT Arlington, Laffy needs to stay ahead of them if they want to get selected to move up.
Posted by Cajunese
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:44 pm to
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He despised and complained signing athletic scholarship approvals. His supporters will say he was trying to keep academics afloat instead of worrying about athletics. But when you specifically tell your coaches they will be fired if they approach certain people about athletic donations, and you refuse to allow a fund be set up to take private athletic donations, then you are actively trying to kill the programs.


It was awful. A former coach once told me that back in the late 80's/ early 90's, Authement was so frugal that he didn't even allow his football coaches to install carpet in the athletic administration building because it was too expensive. Now, this was around the time that USL football was beating the likes of Memphis, Tulane, Northern Illinois, and even Tech on a more regular basis. As crazy as this sounds, the worst thing that could've happened was that win against Texas A&M in 1996. Basically, Dr. A had the mindset of "Well, you beat A&M with what you have now; why do you need more?" That brought the program into the dark ages for a good ten years.

If that administration would've put just HALF of the effort of the current administration, no telling where the program would be. It's a miracle that the program even survived after that dumpster fire on an era.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:49 pm to
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For a G5 school Tech has one of the better programs all-time.

Louisiana Tech has never finished a season ranked in its major college history. That alone puts them behind every AAC team, Army, 3/4 of the MWC, 1/4-1/2 of the MAC and at least 1/2 of C-USA.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
95097 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:55 pm to
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But when you specifically tell your coaches they will be fired if they approach certain people about athletic donations, and you refuse to allow a fund be set up to take private athletic donations, then you are actively trying to kill the programs.



It wasn't just with athletics either. Any donation, regardless of the donors specific intent was lumped into the University Foundation pool.

During Authement's tenure, The academic program I went through received a money generating asset as a donation from a large company. Both that asset and the monies generated from it were supposed to be used to support the program. Authement and Co said "nahh, it's going in the Foundation pool and we'll manage it". Ultimately the head of the program would have to go to the administration for approval to use those funds, which may or may not be approved.
Posted by LaCajunsFan
UL Ragin Cajuns
Member since Mar 2014
1262 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:56 pm to
Yes, all true. I have heard that A&M story from a very reliable source, so believe it to be true.
What is also amazing is to know the story of how Tony R has been treated by the previous admin, and the huge obstacles he has faced. I think of that each and every time I enter the new Tigue: I mean it is a fantastic facility on it's own, but if you know the background of it it is nothing less than miraculous.
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 3:21 pm
Posted by CoastTrashTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2015
1966 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:59 pm to
Yeah sorry, meant more for a university of its size and location, they have had some pretty impressive athletes in general and specifically football players come out of there, and the last 11 years under Dooley, Dykes, and Holtz they have been very successful relatively speaking.


Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 3:02 pm to
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Ga Southern


Love this program. They’re definitely one of my favorite G5 programs.
Posted by Cajunese
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
6983 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 3:08 pm to
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What is also amazing is to know the story of how Tony R has been treated by the previous admin, and the huge obstacles he has faced. I think of that each and every time I enter the new Tigue: I mean it is a fantastic facility on it's own, but if you know the background of it is nothing less than miraculous.



Tony built the baseball program with basically nothing. He came in with no help and no money. The fact that he not only stayed this long, but brought the program to where it currently is today, is indeed a miracle. They definitely need to save some space to erect a statue of that man once he retires. He's earned it.
Posted by CoastTrashTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2015
1966 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 3:10 pm to
Definitely I knew Ga State and Ga Southern were large universities but had no idea they were as big as they are 50K and 30K students I do not know if those numbers include things such as online students or nursing and what not, or multiple campuses but would be very hard to see ULL jumping solo up to C-USA ahead of say UT Arlington 40K or the two GA schools. Obviously cajuns have a better overall athletic department than all 3 but they are limited in their growth unless they can group up with a couple other schools and make a jump.
Posted by LaCajunsFan
UL Ragin Cajuns
Member since Mar 2014
1262 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 3:17 pm to
Yep. And now that we have an Admin that is working hard to change all of this, with the addtion of Maggard and the talent that he is bringing in and given our population and potential for future growth, it is pretty clear we are finally on our way.
Posted by CoastTrashTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2015
1966 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 3:21 pm to
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it is pretty clear we are finally on our way.


To where, not trolling is yalls kinda master plan from what I have gathered on here the last two years to be a regional university and expand out of just Acadiana in all aspects of university life?
Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
Picayune MS
Member since Sep 2014
5750 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 3:23 pm to
SEC Bound, Vanderbilt & Ole Miss have wins(in my Justin Wilson voice)I Guarantee
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 6:29 pm
Posted by Cajunese
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
6983 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 3:36 pm to
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To where, not trolling is yalls kinda master plan from what I have gathered on here the last two years to be a regional university and expand out of just Acadiana in all aspects of university life?


Well technically, we have recently become a national university as well as a Carneige 1 school for research. We are also around 3-5 years away from becoming Tier 1 once we reach the appropriate number of PhD’s. Right now, we are at around 19,000 students with room to grow to around 20,000.

As far as athletics, there’s a survey going around the fan base from the athletic department for a feasibility study of a renovation of Cajun Field. This also includes retail and restaurants on Cajun Field property adjacent to the stadium which would generate millions in revenue for the athletic department each year. Facility wise, Cajun Field is the one eye sore hindering our overall facility layout. Once we get that done, everything else should fall into place as far as the quality of our facilities for a better conference.

I would say the ultimate goal would be somewhere in the AAC. But we have to win in football, and we have to increase our athletic budget. Hence, the ideas for generating revenues outside of just donations.
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 4:04 pm
Posted by LaCajunsFan
UL Ragin Cajuns
Member since Mar 2014
1262 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 3:43 pm to
Well, I didn't think it was worth answering him, because it is such a loaded question. He must not know that, along with LTU we are the only "Statewide" uni's in the state, and have a footprint larger than just 'acadiana.' Also, we are definelty ranked as a "national" uni by Carneige, and that we have more research money than all the other ULS schools combined, etc., etc.
He must not also realize that we are the 2nd largest uni in the state, located in the 3rd largest metro of the state.
But like I said, he is not looking for all of the positive attrriubes of UL....it's pretty clear his mind is already made up.
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 3:45 pm
Posted by CoastTrashTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2015
1966 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 4:08 pm to
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Cajunese


Thanks good stuff, like I said I love any improvements to any university in the state and can say in the last 5 years from an outsiders perspective yall have made major improvements, do I think the AAC is a reach yeah but I certainly think C-USA is a possibility with all of these improvements if yall dont get leapfrogged. I think yall have the best college basketball arena in the state just simply the structure itself and the amenities not taking into account tradition or gameday atmosphere. Yalls baseball and softball programs go without saying would make any conference better.

Heard only good things about yalls engineering college and it apparently continues to grow and get better with more funding and students.
Posted by CoastTrashTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2015
1966 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 4:15 pm to
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He must not also realize that we are the 2nd largest uni in the state, located in the 3rd largest metro of the state.


Thanks man, its people like you that just have this inferiority complex about your university just take it easy not trolling.

Working this summer I learned a lot about ULL and its increasing status within the UL system and for statewide funds, I know my parents mentioned it ULL is now a major boon to the entire region. But to answer your point I have a firm grasp on the urban population areas and their numbers .

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