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re: Will Russell Wilson make the HOF?
Posted on 10/13/23 at 1:41 pm to Legionaries
Posted on 10/13/23 at 1:41 pm to Legionaries
Kurt Warner lost QB jobs in his prime to Marc bulger, Matt Leinart & Eli manning
Don’t care what they each did in SB year. All that is relevant is that they each won one.
Don’t care what they each did in SB year. All that is relevant is that they each won one.
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 1:43 pm to Lester Earl
People seem to forget his Giants year when he was total trash, and his first 2 cardinals years
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 10/13/23 at 6:25 pm to bcoop199
Border line. I know he’s done in Denver after this season
Posted on 10/13/23 at 7:47 pm to Lester Earl
One of the stupidest takes I have seen. Totally giving QB credit for the team.
The point is Warner won the game for his team and Wilson won because of his team.
Most of Wilson's success is due to the team around him. He never elevated anyone around him.
ETA: QBs get too much credit either way, but Warner meant more to his team during the SB win than Wilson did if the only thing that matters is they both won one.
The point is Warner won the game for his team and Wilson won because of his team.
Most of Wilson's success is due to the team around him. He never elevated anyone around him.
ETA: QBs get too much credit either way, but Warner meant more to his team during the SB win than Wilson did if the only thing that matters is they both won one.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 10/13/23 at 7:52 pm to bcoop199
Do y’all not realize Russel Wilson has the 4th best passer rating of all time? Just because a dude drops off a cliff and plays like shite doesn’t take away what he’s done. Yes he’s in.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 7:54 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
Was literally coming to post this.
Warner had a DOGSHIT middle of his career and got in.
Warner has an amazing story and his individual high is higher than Russ ever had. MVPs vs no MVP votes. You win two MVPs you're in. The resurgence in Arizona basically erased the very shitty middle.
quote:
Eli also was shitty as frick for many years and will get in and shouldn't.
Yeah but he's a Manning and he did it in New York. Sportswriters can't wait to cum their pants seeing Peyton put Eli's blazers on.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:01 pm to TigerLifer18
And DeShaun Watson is 3rd, so what?
According to that stat, Wilson is better than Brady, Young and Manning. Get out of here.
According to that stat, Wilson is better than Brady, Young and Manning. Get out of here.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:07 pm to s0tiger
He’ll be over 400 TD’s, with the 4th best passer rating of all time and a SB. He’s in, weather you like him or not.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:11 pm to TigerLifer18
I absolutely think he will be in, but in no way think he is among the best QBs in history (not even close to #4 despite this stat). He is a game manager, which worked when he was with Seattle. But he isn't a player who makes his teammates better like others on the list.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:59 pm to TigerLifer18
quote:Deshaun Watson is 3rd
Do y’all not realize Russel Wilson has the 4th best passer rating of all time? Just because a dude drops off a cliff and plays like shite doesn’t take away what he’s done. Yes he’s in.
Jimmy Garoppolo is 6th
Kirk Cousins is 7th
Dak Prescott is 9th
In the modern era that’s not a metric that helps his case. Any others come to mind?
0 First Team All-Pro
1 Second Team All-Pro
1 ring won by the Legion of Boom and Lynch
1 ring lost due to a horrendous INT
He may get in, but in a just world someone couldn’t be 6th or 7th best at his position during the prime of his career and have a legit claim to Canton. His tenure with DEN further cements it
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:32 pm to Lester Earl
Zero all pros.
All pros weigh heavily.
All pros weigh heavily.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:34 pm to Lester Earl
Warner has MVPs and All Pros.
That is what weighs heavily in Canton voting.
That is what weighs heavily in Canton voting.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:34 pm to Lester Earl
Warner was also the head of the greatest or one of the greatest offenses in history.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 8:49 am to CBandits82
I am not saying Kurt Warner wasn't good. Iam saying don't give me the speech about how Russell Wilson suddenly falling off is going to prevent him from the HOF.
From 2002-2006 (5 seasons) Kurt Warner threw a combined 27 TDs & 30 INTs
Russ has been consistently good his whole career.
From 2002-2006 (5 seasons) Kurt Warner threw a combined 27 TDs & 30 INTs
Russ has been consistently good his whole career.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:53 am to Lester Earl
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Russ has been consistently good his whole career
This is the operative word…….yes Russ has been GOOD. Russ was never really great, like those in the media pumped him up to be.
Warner was truly great for a time, was Warner’s great period long enough to get in? I think it was borderline, just like I think it’s borderline for Russ as well. But that’s the difference between them……Russ was very good but never really great.
You are absolutely correct about Warner’s middle though……it was terrible lol
Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:07 am to bcoop199
quote:
Will Russell Wilson make the HOF?
This is worse than my Colorado prediction thread.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:12 am to bcoop199
I really don’t understand all the hate Wilson gets. He was pretty damn good in Seattle.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:23 am to infantry1026
quote:
Russ was never really great
All due respect; don’t know ball
Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:58 am to TrouserTrout
These were the skill players Wilson played with
RB
Lynch
Robert Turpin
Christine Michael
Spencer Ware
Thomas Rawls
Alex Collins
CJ Prosise
JD McKissic
Chris Carson
Mike Davis
Rashard Penny
Carlos Hyde
Travis Homer
Dee Jay Dallas
WR
Sidney Rice
Golden Tate
Doug Baldwin
Jermaine Kearse
Paul Richardson
Percy Harvin
David Moore
Tyler Lockett
DK Metcalf
TE
Zach Miller
Jimmy Graham
Luke Wilson
Tanner McEvoy
Nick Vannet
Will Dissly
Gerald Everett
Kurt Warner basically had 6 good seasons in his career, mainly playing with guys like this:
Marshall Faulk
Issac Bruce
Torry Holt
Edgerrin James
Larry Fitzgerald
Anquan Boldin
RB
Lynch
Robert Turpin
Christine Michael
Spencer Ware
Thomas Rawls
Alex Collins
CJ Prosise
JD McKissic
Chris Carson
Mike Davis
Rashard Penny
Carlos Hyde
Travis Homer
Dee Jay Dallas
WR
Sidney Rice
Golden Tate
Doug Baldwin
Jermaine Kearse
Paul Richardson
Percy Harvin
David Moore
Tyler Lockett
DK Metcalf
TE
Zach Miller
Jimmy Graham
Luke Wilson
Tanner McEvoy
Nick Vannet
Will Dissly
Gerald Everett
Kurt Warner basically had 6 good seasons in his career, mainly playing with guys like this:
Marshall Faulk
Issac Bruce
Torry Holt
Edgerrin James
Larry Fitzgerald
Anquan Boldin
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