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re: Will Derrick Henry be the last RB to make the HOF?
Posted on 9/26/24 at 8:52 am to lsufball19
Posted on 9/26/24 at 8:52 am to lsufball19
Didn't realize Kamara and Mccafrey had that much all-purpose yardage. If they can have 3 productive seasons, that may be enough to get in.
That's a huge if for Mccafrey though.
That's a huge if for Mccafrey though.
This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 6:25 pm
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:01 am to QJenk
If any of Henry, McCaffrey or Kamara stay productive for another 3 years I think that person gets in. If careers ended today, I don’t think any get in.
LeSean McCoy has 15,000 yards from scrimmage and 89 TDs. It’s a high bar to get in.
Henry is off to a great start though and if he has a big year this year it is probably enough for him.
LeSean McCoy has 15,000 yards from scrimmage and 89 TDs. It’s a high bar to get in.
Henry is off to a great start though and if he has a big year this year it is probably enough for him.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 12:29 pm to grizzlylongcut
If he retired right now he is a HOF lock.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 12:37 pm to dukke v
really? you think so?
1st Team All-Pro 1 time
2nd Team 1 time
9783 career rushing yards
right now he’s closer to Chris Johnson than Adrian Peterson.
but i think he plays a few more years. he is a big MF and being sturdy is part of what makes him great
1st Team All-Pro 1 time
2nd Team 1 time
9783 career rushing yards
right now he’s closer to Chris Johnson than Adrian Peterson.
but i think he plays a few more years. he is a big MF and being sturdy is part of what makes him great
Posted on 9/26/24 at 12:43 pm to SammyTiger
He’s been the best at his position for nearly a decade and will finish inside the top 10 alltime for rushing TDs. HOF voting is fickle but he fits the criteria based on his profile and standing comparable to his peers.
This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 9/26/24 at 12:53 pm to SammyTiger
YPC 5.0 is Barry Sanders/Gale Sayers level
Twice as many yards and rushing titles as Sayers so far
1 of only 8 players ever with a 2000 yard season, when that era was assumed to be over
And simply put he has been a top back consistently his whole career now in his 9th season
If he doesn’t get in no more RB’s get in
Twice as many yards and rushing titles as Sayers so far
1 of only 8 players ever with a 2000 yard season, when that era was assumed to be over
And simply put he has been a top back consistently his whole career now in his 9th season
If he doesn’t get in no more RB’s get in
Posted on 9/26/24 at 12:56 pm to chalmetteowl
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Analytics
I hate analytics
Posted on 9/26/24 at 1:03 pm to Madking
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He’s been the best at his position for nearly a decade.
He has been one of the best at his position.
But was he the best the first 3 years? Todd Gurley was in 2018-19 for sure. Zeke was better early in Henry’s career.
He’s definitely the best rusher, but considering the evolution of the position, you gotta look at receiving yards too.
He’s not even ahead of Zeke in total yards from scrimmage since 2016 and Zeke has been terrible for a few years.
and then you gotta look at all time numbers. he’s got work to do there.
He’s 34th in career rushing yards.
Chris Johnson is 36z
AD a surefire HOFer is 5th.
Henry has work to do. That being said, he isn’t don’t yet. he’s still going strong. he just can’t retire tomorrow.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 1:04 pm to Jim Rockford
The term has been perverted to snow ignorant fans into thinking every stupid move a coach makes is based on numbers. The modern media has turned into spokesmen for athletes and coaches in order to keep up with social media and analytics is just another way the media covers for them.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 1:11 pm to SammyTiger
You’re conflating mine and the other posters statements. I said for most of the decade, the other poster said “his entire career”. Not to nitpick but there’s a difference there that affects perception. As far as his fitting into perceived notions of what a modern back needs to do, Henry affects the game more than backs like Zeke and others who are better at catching the ball because you have to commit extra players to stop him. Does he affect the passing game too, of course he does, to the point of making Ryan Tannehill into a top 5 QB in terms of efficiency and passer rating for multiple seasons. Like Shaq’s effect on his teams 3 point shooting he doesn’t need to make them because he creates them for others.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 1:15 pm to Madking
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I said for most of the decade, the other poster said “his entire career”.
his career is 8.25 seasons long.
so scratch 3 seasons where he wasn’t the best.
you’re left with 5.25. barely most of a decade is he was the best runningback every year of that last 5 years and i don’t think he was.
there was 1 year he was without a doubt the best running back. 1 year where he was 1 or 2.
This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 9/26/24 at 1:25 pm to SammyTiger
When you say he was the best over X period of time it’s collectively speaking, not meaning he had the best season in each year. Cmon man you know better.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 1:36 pm to Madking
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He’s been the best at his position for nearly a decade
No need to exaggerate a guy who has a very credible HOF record. He’s been the or close to the best RB for the last five years. He got hurt one of those years and only played 9 games.
If he has a big year this year I think he is in. And hope he gets in he’s a great back.
But he has nearly identical numbers right now to Priest Holmes. His numbers are worse than Shawn Alexander, and arguably lesean mccoy and Steven Jackson.
HOF is hard. He needs to stand a head above Holmes, Alexander, McCoy, Jackson to get in.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 1:42 pm to SammyTiger
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1st Team All-Pro 1 time
2nd Team 1 time
Something to consider regarding All-Pro selections at RB is that they no longer put 2 on guys on there. So it used to be 3-4 guys RBs on the 2 all pro lists. So basically it's harder to become an All-Pro at RB these days.
I agree with you though that if he retired today I don't think he makes it in. But he needs about 2800 yards and 16 TDs more to be top 15 all time and top 5 all time respectively in those categories. All the guys in the top 15 rushing yards list and top 5 rushing TD lists are HOF level guys.
It's very doable for him to get there if he has a good year this year and even two mediocre years after that.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 1:49 pm to Madking
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When you say he was the best over X period of time it’s collectively speaking, not meaning he had the best season in each year.
What’s the better part of a decade?
Because he’s had 4 great years. that’s his entire career.
first 3 years (of 8 and 3 games) he was not even a top 10 back.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 1:52 pm to ned nederlander
It’s not an exaggeration, since he’s been the starter in Tennessee he’s been the most dominant back in the NFL. He’s led a bad team to a winning record in all but 2 seasons. Normally when a team with no QB just leans on a runner to get them by they’re a bottom 5 team. Henry is the exception, not only carrying his teams to playoffs and winning seasons but elevating a bad QB to near elite status. He’s as rare as it gets for his position.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 1:58 pm to SammyTiger
See this is how I know you don’t watch the games. In 2017 he was splitting time with Demarco Murray when he was far better and ready to break out which finally happened in the playoffs vs the Chiefs when he went for 156 in their upset win. He was absolutely a top tier back at the time he just wasn’t given the touches to warrant box score nerds acknowledging it.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 2:04 pm to Madking
that would be very rare, if that was true.
Tennessee went 9-7 his first 4 years in the league.
2 before he was the starter. 2 after. 1 where he the leading rusher in the NFL.
then he has a 2000 yard season and they go 11-5.
The next year he misses 9 games and they go… 12-5.
Maybe they were 8-0 when he got hurt? Nope. 6-2. so they went 6-3 without him.
again, is he a great RB. Yes
has he been dragging the Titans to the playoffs his whole career? Objectively no.
Tennessee went 9-7 his first 4 years in the league.
2 before he was the starter. 2 after. 1 where he the leading rusher in the NFL.
then he has a 2000 yard season and they go 11-5.
The next year he misses 9 games and they go… 12-5.
Maybe they were 8-0 when he got hurt? Nope. 6-2. so they went 6-3 without him.
again, is he a great RB. Yes
has he been dragging the Titans to the playoffs his whole career? Objectively no.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 2:11 pm to Madking
in 2017 he was 19th in yards per attempts.
He just wasn’t elite and honestly when you’re a guy who’s best attribute is being able to run strong while getting 30 carries you cannot be elite without a ton of carries.
what did he do the week after the Chiefs game?
He just wasn’t elite and honestly when you’re a guy who’s best attribute is being able to run strong while getting 30 carries you cannot be elite without a ton of carries.
what did he do the week after the Chiefs game?
Posted on 9/26/24 at 2:13 pm to SammyTiger
lol you’re trying to criticize him being on pace for 1,990 yards by dancing around it and refusing to acknowledge it. “If that were true” should be your username
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