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re: Why Isn’t Big Ten Baseball Better?
Posted on 6/19/25 at 4:58 pm to turnpiketiger
Posted on 6/19/25 at 4:58 pm to turnpiketiger
quote:A weather delay is very different than not being able to get out on the field for one to two months
All the weather delays we deal with in the south, they can work around it. I’m sure of that. Might not apply to all Big10 teams but the ones I named can pull it off.
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 5:05 pm to tigeroarz1
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SMU didn’t have a baseball team when they joined the ACC
Did not know this. That's nuts to me considering their closest rival has been to Omaha 6 times in the last 15 years.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 5:24 pm to GentleJackJones
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Michigan had some success recently. They were runner ups about 4 or 5 years ago.
They were runner up in 2019, first appearance at the CWS since 1984. Then they went 27-19 in 2021, 34-28 in 2022, and their coach left for Clemson after the 2022 season. They haven’t been good since.
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Isn’t Indiana fairly decent?
They’ve made the NCAAT a few times the last 7-8 and have never made if out of a regional
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Notre Dame fields good teams from time to time.
And when it happens their coach leaves for a program in the southeast
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Creighton is usually pretty good.
Not really. They make the tournament about twice a decade. They haven’t been “usually pretty good” since the early 90s
Moral of the story is it’s almost impossible to sustain success at a northern school
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 6/19/25 at 6:12 pm to 32footsteps
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Wisconsin hasn’t had a baseball program since the early 90’s. Athletic department was hemorrhaging money and it was a casualty. That’s what most will cite but Title IX was also an issue. In order to save baseball UW would’ve had to add a couple of women’s sports to be compliant with title IX.
Think they’re just scared of not winning the Jello Shot Record
Posted on 6/19/25 at 6:28 pm to turnpiketiger
Weather
A few B1G and even Big 12 teams start out playing in the South. I remember when Villanova opened up the New Box in 2009 and their coach said that BR was where they had their first outdoor practice of the year.
A few B1G and even Big 12 teams start out playing in the South. I remember when Villanova opened up the New Box in 2009 and their coach said that BR was where they had their first outdoor practice of the year.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 6:30 pm to TigerintheNO
Louisville and UK(recently) have been good. Similar weather to “traditional” BIG10 schools. Different priorities imo
Posted on 6/19/25 at 6:35 pm to LSUMJ
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I seriously doubt any northern fan thinks its crazy southern schools dont have ice hockey
Dude ice hockey reference was a joke. I included that reference b/c I knew Wisconsin had a big time hockey program.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 6:41 pm to TigerintheNO
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Michigan made a run in Omaha when they had Barry Larkin, Chris Sabo, and Hal Morris. They made another in 2019, beat Vandy in Game 1 of the Championship, one win from the championship.
The sport has evolved a ton. Regionals back in the day used to be true regionals, where a geographic area determined where you went in the postseason. Example would be why Maine and Northern Colorado have several CWS appearances. They would win that particular region. Now, regionals are determined by rankings/seeds, and a northern area isn’t guaranteed to have a designated number of hosts. The Big Ten has tailed off since then, as has the northeast. Off the top of my head, these are the “northern” teams that have made it to Omaha since the modern Super Regional format:
Indiana
Notre Dame
Michigan
Stony Brook
Kent State
I’m pretty sure that’s it. The only one of those that has made it more than once is Notre Dame.
You can also argue Oregon State and Washington made it to Omaha as a “northern” school, but that was competing with PAC schools.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 6:43 pm to turnpiketiger
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So does the south. Yet it’s still super popular in the SEC and ACC territories.
There's 9 MLB teams in the historical Big Ten footprint with Indiana and Iowa being the only states without a team. The SEC historical footprint had 3 teams, two of them 90's expansion teams that barely have fanbases to this day. The ACC programs that care about baseball are in the SEC footprint.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 6:48 pm to saintsfan22
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two of them 90's expansion teams that barely have fanbases to this day.
I think part of that was the population shift patterns. The fans in Florida love them some Spring Training games for the Yanks, Sox, Orioles, Phillies, Pirates, etc. So many of those folks moved (or had families move) from those cities. They have zero ties to the Rays and Marlins. I think those sterile domed stadiums don’t help either.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 7:15 pm to turnpiketiger
quote:Sec states with pro teams
So does the south
Georgia
Florida
New sec Texas and mizzou as well
So original sec only has two states with a pro team
Now big 10 originals with pro teams
Pennsylvania
Michigan
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Illinois
Ohio
Posted on 6/19/25 at 7:37 pm to turnpiketiger
I’ll also say that Michigan State (Garvey, Kirk Gibson, Robin Roberts), Minnesota (Winfield, Molitor), and others have a solid baseball history.
Hell, in the B1G footprint, you have UConn, Southern Illinois, Western Michigan, St John’s, Maine, Penn St…all have as many or more CWS appearances than Alabama (just an example). Ohio State has a title.
Hell, in the B1G footprint, you have UConn, Southern Illinois, Western Michigan, St John’s, Maine, Penn St…all have as many or more CWS appearances than Alabama (just an example). Ohio State has a title.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 7:57 pm to TexasTiger08
It's wild that Wright State is the best college baseball team in the state.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 7:58 pm to turnpiketiger
Weather sucks till late April early may.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:21 pm to turnpiketiger
This is very very simple.
The South is literally better at everything.
The South is literally better at everything.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:28 pm to TexasTiger08
Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:31 pm to armytiger96
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Dude ice hockey reference was a joke. I included that reference b/c I knew Wisconsin had a big time hockey program.
It’s been average to bad for a while now which in my opinion is unacceptable. Yet no big changes have been made that I’m aware of.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:38 pm to jizzle6609
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The South is literally better at everything.
Not where it counts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:47 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
I have that card somewhere. I also have the one of him in the football uniform.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:05 pm to turnpiketiger
Why Isn’t Big Ten Baseball Better?
Posted by turnpiketiger 6/19/25 at 6:05 am
Posted by turnpiketiger 6/19/25 at 6:05 am
This post was edited on 6/21/25 at 2:14 pm
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