- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Why is UCF’s resume used against them?
Posted on 11/17/18 at 11:00 pm to Weagle25
Posted on 11/17/18 at 11:00 pm to Weagle25
I did read the thread...been posting in it throughout. You really have not answered or stated a position, you just asked ambiguous questions.
To answer all of your questions:
Because they play in the American, you correctly pointed out it is nowhere near as good as the rest of the Power 5.
It is, UCF is not one of the 4 best teams.
The resume questions for UCF has not "all of a sudden" come up, it has been a question before the season started. Which teams is the resume thrown out the window for, please explain which ones? Every single team that is being evaluated for the CFP not named Alabama is having their resume scrutinized whether it be for seeding or to get in.
To answer all of your questions:
quote:
Why is UCF’s resume used against them?
Because they play in the American, you correctly pointed out it is nowhere near as good as the rest of the Power 5.
quote:
I thought it was about the best 4 teams?
It is, UCF is not one of the 4 best teams.
quote:
Why does resume all of the sudden come up when it comes to them but thrown out the window for other teams?
The resume questions for UCF has not "all of a sudden" come up, it has been a question before the season started. Which teams is the resume thrown out the window for, please explain which ones? Every single team that is being evaluated for the CFP not named Alabama is having their resume scrutinized whether it be for seeding or to get in.
1
Posted on 11/17/18 at 11:02 pm to ForkEmDemons
Agree with all that.
I'm just wondering why the system changes when UCF is brought up. I know the answer but it baffles me the amount of people that don't see how bullshite this system is.
I'm just wondering why the system changes when UCF is brought up. I know the answer but it baffles me the amount of people that don't see how bullshite this system is.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 11:04 pm to ForkEmDemons
quote:
If college basketball was like football Loyola never makes the dance. You could easily say “You think Loyola could really beat K State”
Or Can Stony Brook really beat LSU in a Super at The Box.
Apples to oranges, cannot compare baseball or basketball to football and the way champions are chosen for their respective postseason tournaments.
quote:
Easy to say someone can’t do something when they have no opportunity due to a system that heavily favors a minority of teams.
What? The system favors anybody in the Power 5 and Notre Dame, thats not a small minority. I can easily say UCF is not deserving, nor one of the 4 best by the eye test based off of who they have played and how bad they did or didn't beat said teams.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 11:06 pm to CoastTrashTiger
quote:
by the eye test
Posted on 11/17/18 at 11:08 pm to NawlinsTiger9
So you do not use the eye test at all? I do not think LSU is one of the 7 best teams in college football based off of the "eye test" but their resume says they are.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 11:10 pm to CoastTrashTiger
The eye test is for drinking and bullshitting with your friends.
It's not for ranking teams and influencing championships.
It's not for ranking teams and influencing championships.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 11:15 pm to Weagle25
quote:
Weagle25
If your team would have handled business in your bowl game last year none of this shite would be happening
Posted on 11/17/18 at 11:19 pm to CoastTrashTiger
quote:
Because they play in the American, you correctly pointed out it is nowhere near as good as the rest of the Power 5.
Not what I said. I don't think that. But what I think doesn't mean shite. What the experts think doesn't mean shite.
quote:
It is, UCF is not one of the 4 best teams.
How do we judge best?
quote:
Which teams is the resume thrown out the window for, please explain which ones?
Been ignored pretty much every year we've had the playoff
Posted on 11/17/18 at 11:32 pm to Weagle25
quote:
Which teams is the resume thrown out the window for, please explain which ones?
quote:
Been ignored pretty much every year we've had the playoff
Again which teams was it thrown out for, in the past or this year. Who do you think are the 4 best teams then if UCF is one of your 4?
Posted on 11/17/18 at 11:33 pm to CoastTrashTiger
[img]Apples to oranges, cannot compare baseball or basketball to football and the way champions are chosen for their respective postseason tournaments.[/img]
That’s my point though. It should be like the other sports where EVERY team has a chance at a title, not just a few predetermined teams.
That’s my point though. It should be like the other sports where EVERY team has a chance at a title, not just a few predetermined teams.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 11:38 pm to ForkEmDemons
quote:
It should be like the other sports where EVERY team has a chance at a title, not just a few predetermined teams.
But every team does not have a chance at a title in baseball or basketball so.... again apples to oranges. They have 350 Division one basketball teams give or take and only 68 get a chance, that leaves about 270 give or take that do not have a chance at a title? Explain how in other sports every team has a chance. In before the conference tourney's allows every team a chance.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 11:44 pm to CoastTrashTiger
quote:
But every team does not have a chance at a title in baseball or basketball so.... again apples to oranges.
Yes they do. NSU, which was not a high pre-season pick last year in the Southland played for a National title last year in the regionals. We had a chance . Every team had a chance to make the post-season and play for a title.
In basketball every D1 team has a chance to make the tourney and play for a title.
In football UCF did everything they could and didn’t get a chance.
In the other sports the teams that didn’t make it had s chance, just didn’t win when needed. In football smaller schools have zero chance regardless
This post was edited on 11/18/18 at 12:14 am
Posted on 11/18/18 at 12:16 am to CoastTrashTiger
quote:
But every team does not have a chance at a title in baseball or basketball so.... again apples to oranges. They have 350 Division one basketball teams give or take and only 68 get a chance, that leaves about 270 give or take that do not have a chance at a title? Explain how in other sports every team has a chance. In before the conference tourney's allows every team a chance.
This post reminds me, important to volunteer and help those with down syndrome
Posted on 11/18/18 at 1:39 am to CoastTrashTiger
quote:
Again which teams was it thrown out for, in the past or this year.
Alabama last year (but I'm sure you'll reference the SEC bias)
Ohio State when they went over PSU
quote:
Who do you think are the 4 best teams then if UCF is one of your 4?
I don't think it should be determined based on best team because that's so subjective. So irrelevant. UCF isn't necessarily one of my best four.
But again my opinion doesn't mean shite. Nobody's means shite. It should be determined on the field.
This post was edited on 11/18/18 at 1:45 am
Posted on 11/18/18 at 1:41 am to CoastTrashTiger
quote:
The system favors anybody in the Power 5 and Notre Dame
Exactly. What's the point of a team like UCF playing if they can go two straight years without losing a game and not have a chance at the championship?
If you want to do that, then create a separate division.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 1:57 am to Weagle25
quote:
It should be determined on the field.
It is determined on the field...
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:14 am to Weagle25
quote:
What's the point of a team like UCF playing if they can go two straight years without losing a game and not have a chance at the championship?
Are you asking why UCF should continue to play football even though they feel like for two years they will unfairly have been left out of the discussion?
quote:
If you want to do that, then create a separate division.
I actually would be in favor of this if the CFP does not expand at the FBS level. Making a Group of 5 championship style tournament at the end of the year would be a great idea. You could even crown them National Champions of the Group of 5, much like you do with FCS, D-2, and D-3.
But that is deflecting from your original point/question. Why is UCF's resume used against them. Because they have a very weak strength of schedule, and even some of those games against weaker competition they played them too close. I think UCF would have a much better argument atleast in the eyes of the committee if they had beaten Memphis and Temple by a lot more and truly dominated. Next year they play Stanford at home early enough where Stanford could be ranked, that would be a big win if that happens, and would change a lot of peoples minds including my own about considering them seriously.
I personally think the playoff should be a 12 or 8 team playoff. First 4 seeds get byes in the 12 version, and atleast one Group of 5 school gets in, in either version. I agree the system is not fair, but based off of how the current system is set up, no UCF does not "deserve" to be in the CFP, nor are they one of the 4 best teams in my opinion, which does not mean shite, but I think the committee will say that as well.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:15 am to CoastTrashTiger
quote:
It is determined on the field...
If that were true Alabama would have never made the playoffs. They failed to win their division and got a chance while conference champions who did earn it on the field and an undefeated team (that beat the team that beat Alabama) had no chance.
That isn’t deciding it on the field
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:17 am to ForkEmDemons
quote:
They failed to win their division and got a chance while conference champions who did earn it on the field and an undefeated team (that beat the team that beat Alabama) had no chance.
Thats not the criteria for making the CFP, nowhere does it say to make the CFP you have to win your conference or just win your division. Here we go with the transitive property bullshite.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 6:30 am to CoastTrashTiger
quote:
It is determined on the field...
No it isn't.
It's determined behind the closed doors of some hotel conference room.
Page 3 of 4
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News