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re: Why is this Dolphins story getting this big?
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:33 am to Spaulding Smails
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:33 am to Spaulding Smails
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Martin still text messages and voicemails. Incognito has a bunch of guys saying he was just joshin'.
But Incognito was just joshin', and the sentiment in the locker room is that it was horse play between two good buddies and Martin thought it was comical.
I don't know about y'all, but my friends and I talk shite to each other like that all the time. We know we aren't serious about what we say, and we brush it off. But if someone does strike a nerve, we are man enough to confront one another, and say "Hey man, I didn't like what you said. Can you maybe not do that in the future"
They are not friends. They are colleagues.
I josh with my friends too. But I chose my friends. I don't choose my colleagues.
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:35 am to bwallcubfan
I'm anxious to here some info from David Shaw.
I think Martin has mental issues.
I think Martin has mental issues.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:41 am to A2
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They are not friends. They are colleagues.
Everyone at the Dolphin's organization has stated that Incognito was the closest thing to a friend Martin had on the team.
It doesn't sound like he was well liked outside of Incognito
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:42 am to Spaulding Smails
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Everyone at the Dolphin's organization has stated that Incognito was the closest thing to a friend Martin had on the team.
It doesn't sound like he was well liked outside of Incognito
id guess by refusing to pay at the rookie dinner he probably burned a lot of bridges quickly
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:42 am to Spaulding Smails
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But saying your going to "shite down someone's throat" can't be said without laughing about it at some point
Only if a normal person tries to say it. I'm not so sure Incognito is even remotely normal.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:43 am to Captain Ron
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I'm anxious to here some info from David Shaw.
what exactly are you expecting to hear? former Stanford teammates and Harbaugh (his HC at Stanford longer than Shaw was) have defended and spoke highly of Martin. I can't see Shaw not doing the same.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:45 am to ZereauxSum
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Only if a normal person tries to say it. I'm not so sure Incognito is even remotely normal.
Imagine if your best friend called you up (sober or drunk) and left a message on your phone saying "hey you slapdick piece of shite, I'm going to shite down your throat if you don't call me back, later"
How would you interpret that phone call?
Joke or threat?
This post was edited on 11/7/13 at 10:46 am
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:49 am to Captain Ron
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I'm anxious to here some info from David Shaw.
I think Martin has mental issues.
I doubt he will say anything, but I would be interested to hear that too.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:49 am to Spaulding Smails
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Imagine if your best friend called you up (sober or drunk) and left a message on your phone saying "hey you slapdick piece of shite, I'm going to shite down your throat if you don't call me back, later"
Is this actually a case of one friend drunk-dialing another?
I'm not sure we have enough information about their relationship or the context of the call to say whether this analogy is applicable.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:51 am to Spaulding Smails
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They are not friends. They are colleagues.
Everyone at the Dolphin's organization has stated that Incognito was the closest thing to a friend Martin had on the team.
It doesn't sound like he was well liked outside of Incognito
One more time-- it's called cya. A lot of people are going to feign knowledge to show lack of involvement.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:52 am to lsutigers1992
I personally don't give a shite about it.
It's a fricking joke of a story.
It's a fricking joke of a story.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:56 am to ATLTiger
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what exactly are you expecting to hear? former Stanford teammates and Harbaugh (his HC at Stanford longer than Shaw was) have defended and spoke highly of Martin. I can't see Shaw not doing the same.
Anything that corroborates either side.
Whether Martin was an aloof outcast who shied away from a team concept, or if it was totally opposite of what has been said about his time in Miami.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:57 am to A2
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One more time-- it's called cya. A lot of people are going to feign knowledge to show lack of involvement
I think more people have something to lose by sticking up for Incognito. Why would they go along the side of the "Media Villain" if they were trying to cover their arse?
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:59 am to lsutigers1992
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Why is this Dolphins story getting this big?
Because Jeff Ireland sucks more than ESPN's desire to become TMZ.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:00 am to Captain Ron
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Whether Martin was an aloof outcast who shied away from a team concept, or if it was totally opposite of what has been said about his time in Miami.
Its totally plausible that he was viewed totally different from the Dolphins and from the people at Stanford during his respective times there
Shaw could come out and say he got along great with everyone at Stanford, and be 100 percent correct....and the Dolphins players/coaches at the same time could say he never really fit in and also be 100 percent correct
Its safe to assume that the cultures are way different at Stanford than they are in an NFL locker room
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:00 am to lsutigers1992
they are doing it to piss off all the fake internet tough guys who claim they would have manned up and fought Incognito.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:02 am to Spaulding Smails
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Why would they go along the side of the "Media Villain" if they were trying to cover their arse?
Maybe because they need/want him back? They're already missing Martin. Losing two starters on the line is not good for a team who is on the playoff bubble at best.
Or maybe because the entire team leadership was in on this? Martin is on the outside now. There aren't a whole lot of incentives for sticking up for him.
So, yeah I can see the CYA angle.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:04 am to Captain Ron
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Whether Martin was an aloof outcast who shied away from a team concept, or if it was totally opposite of what has been said about his time in Miami.
you're more likely to get that from someone like Richard Sherman than Shaw. Sherman and Martin's careers overlapped some, and we know Sherman loves to talk.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:08 am to Captain Ron
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Whether Martin was an aloof outcast who shied away from a team concept, or if it was totally opposite of what has been said about his time in Miami.
outside of miami teammates and coaches have been positive, his pre-draft mental work up was extremely positive. miami teammates have been the only ones that have beat him up at all. if he walked into a lockerroom and didnt want to partake in their "traditions" but wanted to be well liked and a leader id imagine hed be very conflicted the last year and come off as an outsider that doesnt know what to do with the group.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:10 am to ZereauxSum
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Maybe because they need/want him back? They're already missing Martin. Losing two starters on the line is not good for a team who is on the playoff bubble at best.
Or maybe because the entire team leadership was in on this? Martin is on the outside now. There aren't a whole lot of incentives for sticking up for him.
So, yeah I can see the CYA angle.
also this isnt the whole organization coming out for richie - we have a handful of players saying JM was an outsider or friend of RI, and the organization itself staying silent beyond a "we had no idea" which seems to be untrue given the info about irelands advice
This post was edited on 11/7/13 at 11:11 am
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