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re: Why don't players backwards lateral the ball out of bounds to stop the clock?

Posted on 9/16/16 at 7:26 am to
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 7:26 am to
It would be considered a fumble and fumbling backwards and out of bounds does not stop the clock.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 7:31 am to
LINK

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A team is not permitted to conserve time inside of one minute of either half by committing any of these acts:
- a foul by either team that prevents the snap (i.e., false start, encroachment, etc.)
- intentional grounding
- an illegal forward pass thrown from beyond the line of scrimmage
- throwing a backward pass out of bounds
- spiking or throwing the ball in the field of play after a down has ended, except after a touchdown
- any other intentional foul that causes the clock to stop.


This is for the NFL, but I'd imagine college football has similar if not the same rule(s).
This post was edited on 9/16/16 at 7:32 am
Posted by SuperSoakher
Member since Jun 2012
4585 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 8:21 am to
Its a penalty if the ref deems it intentional. If you can make tge charade look unintentional then you can do it
Posted by Oddibe
Close to some, further from others
Member since Sep 2015
6749 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 12:50 pm to
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i have gone to a higher source. I texted a college football official to ask him the question. Will report back once I hear from him.



Me: Question, Is it legal to lateral the ball out of bounds to purposely stop the clock?

Him: High school or college?

Me: College

Him: No

He then pointed me to the rule book. See below,Sections 3-4-3 and 3-4-4 clearly cover this.

Unfair Clock Tactics
3-4-3
2014 A.R.
The referee shall order the game clock or play clock started or stopped whenever either team conserves or consumes playing time by tactics obviously unfair. This includes starting the game clock on the snap if the foul is by the team ahead in the score. The game clock will start on the ready-for-play signal after team a throws an illegal forward or backward pass to conserve time (Rule 3-3-2-e-14) (A.R. 3-4-3-I-V).

10-Second Subtraction from Game Clock
3-4-4-a
2014 Info
With the game clock running and less than one minute remaining in either half, before a change of team possession if a player of either team commits a foul that causes the clock to stop, the officials may subtract 10 seconds from the game clock at the option of the offended team. The fouls that fall in this category include but are not limited to:

Any foul that prevents the snap (e.g., false start, encroachment, defensive offside by contact in the neutral zone, etc.) (A.R. 3-3-4-IV);
Intentional grounding to stop the clock;
Incomplete illegal forward pass;
Backward pass thrown out of bounds to stop the clock;
Any other foul committed with the intent of stopping the clock.
The offended team may accept the yardage penalty and decline the 10-second subtraction. If the yardage penalty is declined the 10-second subtraction is declined by rule.
Posted by Rabbs and QStick
Texas
Member since Apr 2012
3034 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 1:09 pm to
Yes there is.

Article stating rule changes from 2011
This post was edited on 9/16/16 at 1:11 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177371 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

Not true.

True.
Posted by gjackx
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2007
16584 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 3:08 pm to
Why isn't spiking the ball intentional grounding?
Posted by Coach C
Member since Jan 2008
477 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 3:13 pm to
If I remember correctly it once was considered intentional grounding and you had to throw it out of bounds. Rule was changed to allow it many years ago. Yes I am old.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80529 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 3:38 pm to
You still only lose ten seconds and the clock starts on the ready to play.

For the NFL, that's worth it.

College you could probably clock it in under 10 seconds since the clock stops after the first down.

But if you have someone in the vicinity like intentional grounding, you could still get away with it.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63089 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Not true.

True.



Forward progress isn't stopped if a player runs backwards on his own volition...only if a player is forced backwards by a defender.
Posted by cascadia
Georgia
Member since Jan 2014
2611 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

have gone to a higher source. I texted a college football official to ask him the question. Will report back once I hear from him.


Can you ask him to define a catch next?
This post was edited on 9/16/16 at 4:42 pm
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