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re: Why do you think Jordan took a hiatus away from basketball?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:16 pm to Rou Leed
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:16 pm to Rou Leed
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There are a number of reasons to believe the story is not accurate:
1. Financial impact to NBA in season and a half he didnt play.
Any financial impact for that 1 year would be marginal at best, a rounding error. Don't confuse his overall impact to the same impact on 1 season. But If you think the story is fishy because of the financial impact, then short of him being a CIA operative on a secret mission, the truth makes the most sense. Why would the NBA let him walk if it was so bad for their business let alone suspend him voluntarily?
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 1:18 pm
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:16 pm to sand mountainDvalues
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His dad was killed by the mob due to Michael’s gambling addiction and the NBA didn’t want that little story blowing up.
Link please? I'd like to read up on it. TIA
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:17 pm to Rou Leed
What I believe is he got in some type of severe gambling/trim type problem with the mob. Mob probably had their hooks into several low end NBA players and some officials. Mob threatened to out the whole thing rigged officials in Jordan games. Extra trips to free throw line was probably league mandated. MJ got spotted about 12 points per game and games were fixed. MJ comes back after some guys sleep with fishes after mob power struggle. The potential rats got done in or something clearing the way for a return. Its not a big strectch. Mobbed up refs fixing nba games has been confirmed during this era.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:23 pm to Rou Leed
you watch to many mob movies 
Also i;m not sure that plot makes any sense
Also i;m not sure that plot makes any sense
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:25 pm to Rou Leed
1. I don’t buy Jordan wanting to play minor league baseball. Going from the penthouse to minor league bus rides ? I don’t understand.
2. Off topic: I never bought into the story that Erving Magic Johnson had HIV. I thing the NBA and Magic were bought off to create a public service narrative. Magic was at the end of his career anyway. It wasn’t like this HIV story became news before game 1 of the 1987 NBAFinals.
2. Off topic: I never bought into the story that Erving Magic Johnson had HIV. I thing the NBA and Magic were bought off to create a public service narrative. Magic was at the end of his career anyway. It wasn’t like this HIV story became news before game 1 of the 1987 NBAFinals.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:28 pm to Klingler7
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2. Off topic: I never bought into the story that Erving Magic Johnson had HIV. I thing the NBA and Magic were bought off to create a public service narrative. Magic was at the end of his career anyway. It wasn’t like this HIV story became news before game 1 of the 1987 NBAFinals.
Just wow
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:29 pm to sand mountainDvalues
yeah the mob just wont take credit
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:31 pm to H-Town Tiger
I think the critical point is to determine what was different when he came back. He was still MJ. He was still getting mobbed at baseball parks. He never really stepped away from that. He stepped away from playing NBA basketball. I think people are trying to say it was gambling without really saying it. Its just hinted at strongly with no specific detail. It stinks.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:36 pm to Rou Leed
of course it was the same when he came back, but he had a year and a half away, ever heard the expression time heals all wounds? when he came back it was almost 2 years after his dad was killed. I really don't know why you don't want to just accept that? Sometimes people just need to step away for a brief period.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:44 pm to H-Town Tiger
I just don't believe it. Everything presented so far in the documentary has convinced me he was not capable of stepping away from anything. It does not seem in his nature to even think that way honestly.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:46 pm to VermilionTiger
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Stern suspended him, but couldn’t say he suspended him
I don’t mean to target you because I think you’re a solid poster, but this theory is so stupid. Hell you may be saying it in jest.
They are going to talk about it in the next 2 episodes of the Last Dance and they point out how ridiculous this is.
What does David Stern, or the NBA for that matter, have to gain by secretly suspending the face of the league? To teach him a lesson?? And to do it right after his dad was murdered - like a dude with the ego of Jordan would not only agree, but keep it a secret? He had flirted with coming back a few times...so they were like “OK Mike, there’s a few games left in the season. We think you have learned your lesson. You can come back now.”
the whole thing is so stupid
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:47 pm to sand mountainDvalues
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Open your eyes sheep.
Sounds like you are the sheep in this case.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:48 pm to Rou Leed
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I just don't believe it. Everything presented so far in the documentary has convinced me he was not capable of stepping away from anything. It does not seem in his nature to even think that way honestly.
You will change your mind after this weekend. I saw episodes 7 and 8.
shite he was hinting at it during the 93 season in interviews. He definitely had it on his mind.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:48 pm to Klingler7
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2. Off topic: I never bought into the story that Erving Magic Johnson had HIV. I thing the NBA and Magic were bought off to create a public service narrative. Magic was at the end of his career anyway. It wasn’t like this HIV story became news before game 1 of the 1987 NBAFinals.
Holy frick.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:50 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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You’re probably not gonna get a more in depth look at why as the last episode and the ones coming Sunday. It’s funny to joke about the NBA “suspending” him but they obviously would have just swept it under the rug and done nothing instead if he did bet on basketball
Wrong. They address it specifically next episode. Stern, Jordan, and several other people talk about this in depth. And for most reasonable people it would put this dumb shot to rest.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:51 pm to Rou Leed
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Rou Leed
Do you believe that David Stern froze the envelope to get Ewing to the Knicks?
Many people who believe that Jordan/gambling suspension theory believe that as well.
If so, tell me why David Stern would fix a draft for monetary gain, but then later suspend the most marketable player in the history of sports?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:54 pm to PortCityTiger24
I wont believe a word any of them say. I would like to hear more from the sponsors and people that took some financial loses based on his "decision" and get their side of the story.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:55 pm to Rou Leed
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I just don't believe it. Everything presented so far in the documentary has convinced me he was not capable of stepping away from anything. It does not seem in his nature to even think that way honestly.
You've watched a few hours about a dude in the way they want it presented. I'm going to guess he's a little more complex than this.
So you won't believe a word people in the documentary say but you know what MJ is or isn't capable of based on the documentary.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:56 pm to Rou Leed
Stern was a business man. He made a lot of people a lot of money. His interest was always the bottom line, and protecting that bottom line. Nobody in that documentary has any incentive to tell the truth now.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:57 pm to Rou Leed
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I would like to hear more from the sponsors and people that took some financial loses based on his "decision" and get their side of the story.
What do you think they would say?
I'm confused on what you think the sponsor's role was in this.
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