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Why do people try and use injuries to discredit the Raptors' title?
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:07 pm
People often complain that the Raptors didn't have to face a fully healthy Warriors team. The fact of the matter is that the fully healthy 2017-2019 Warriors were an unfair team, achieving that level thanks to poaching KD from the Thunder. The 2018 Rockets were a similarly powerful team, but they attained their greatness fair and square.
KD being absent for the majority of the series simply made the Warriors a fair opponent again. It's not like 2015 at all, where the injuries to Kyrie and Love turned a title contender into a sacrificial lamb (which the Warriors still struggled with). And while I believe the Warriors would've won Game 6 had Klay not gotten hurt, the Raptors would've won Game 5 had the unfairly-acquired KD not played, so it all evened out in the end.
The bottom line is the Raptors' title (along with nearly every other NBA title) is legit, while the Warriors' 3 recent titles are the ONLY tainted titles (2015: injuries, 2017: KD, 2018: KD/CP3 injury/bad officiating in Game 7). That is a FACT.
KD being absent for the majority of the series simply made the Warriors a fair opponent again. It's not like 2015 at all, where the injuries to Kyrie and Love turned a title contender into a sacrificial lamb (which the Warriors still struggled with). And while I believe the Warriors would've won Game 6 had Klay not gotten hurt, the Raptors would've won Game 5 had the unfairly-acquired KD not played, so it all evened out in the end.
The bottom line is the Raptors' title (along with nearly every other NBA title) is legit, while the Warriors' 3 recent titles are the ONLY tainted titles (2015: injuries, 2017: KD, 2018: KD/CP3 injury/bad officiating in Game 7). That is a FACT.
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:14 pm to karmew32
Of course it’s legit.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:18 pm to karmew32
because people are stupid.
its a talking point for argument sake, but they won.
i mean people discredit GSW for beating a kevin love-less and kyrie-less cleveland. But does anyone discredit GSW for zaza'ing kawhi when SA looked like the better team.
its a talking point for argument sake, but they won.
i mean people discredit GSW for beating a kevin love-less and kyrie-less cleveland. But does anyone discredit GSW for zaza'ing kawhi when SA looked like the better team.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:23 pm to karmew32
quote:
The 2018 Rockets were a similarly powerful team, but they attained their greatness fair and square.
Nobody will ever be allowed to forget that the Houston Rockets were the 2018 regular season champions.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:28 pm to karmew32
Golden state has been the best team in the nba for 5 years with every team at full health. The only team in those 5 years that truly could even challenge them is Houston the last two. That’s is why coach kerr has said Houston is the best team they have faced since he been there.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:31 pm to htran90
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because people are stupid.
And I'm sure the main whiner about this will be in here shortly
edit: What do you know? The loser already is
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:56 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:They weren't at full health for the majority of the playoffs
Golden state has been the best team in the nba for 5 years with every team at full health
Based on the playoffs
Toronto > Golden State with KD injured > Houston/Portland
Posted on 7/12/19 at 9:06 pm to genro
No. Klay ALSO missed one game and the end of a second.. If it was just Kevin down GSW woulda took them down pretty easily.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 9:08 pm to karmew32
Because Drake is a douchebag and frick Canada. That's all I got. Injuries are part of the game.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 9:11 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Golden state has been the best team in the nba for 5 years with every team at full health.
WBB, 2015 they were at full health and gave up 2 games to a team with Matthew dellavedova as the #2 option. 2016 they actually did lose in the finals while being healthier than they were against Houston in 2018.
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The only team in those 5 years that truly could even challenge them is Houston the last two.
WBB, the warriors have been anything but healthy against Houston the last 2 years. the clippers were the only team that played actual healthy golden state this year, and they provided a more legitimate challenge winning the same amount of games, on the road, against the healthy version.
And of course, Toronto faired infinitely better against the injured warriors than Houston did.
quote:
That’s is why coach kerr has said Houston is the best team they have faced since he been there.
Actually that’s not what he said at all. But given your history of literally making shite up to attempt to pass off as fact, this isn’t surprising.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 9:12 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
No. Klay ALSO missed one game and the end of a second.. If it was just Kevin down GSW woulda took them down pretty easily.
WBB, Toronto was 2-2 in games that klay played fully with no Durant. Houston was 0-1.25 in games that klay played completely with no Durant.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 9:16 pm to karmew32
My favorite part of this post is OP repeatedly saying the Warriors "unfairly acquired KD".
Posted on 7/12/19 at 9:38 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
The only team in those 5 years that truly could even challenge them is Houston the last two
Or the 2 teams that actually beat them.. to win a championship.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 9:55 pm to karmew32
Why?
Because its true.
Cousins
Klay
Durant
Fwiw
No champ won vs 100% finalist the past 4 years and houston was up when cp3 hammy in west games
They say it because its true.
PS your whine about fair without kd is childish.
Because its true.
Cousins
Klay
Durant
Fwiw
No champ won vs 100% finalist the past 4 years and houston was up when cp3 hammy in west games
They say it because its true.
PS your whine about fair without kd is childish.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 10:58 pm to karmew32
quote:because the best player on the planet didn't play. just a guess.
Why do people try and use injuries to discredit the Raptors' title?
Posted on 7/13/19 at 1:34 am to karmew32
Stupid thread
The warriors have an extra $35 million in cap space without KD. Give them a couple $17 mil guys instead of KD and they win again. They almost won with half the roster hurt.
All the teams play by the same salary cap rules
The warriors have an extra $35 million in cap space without KD. Give them a couple $17 mil guys instead of KD and they win again. They almost won with half the roster hurt.
All the teams play by the same salary cap rules
This post was edited on 7/13/19 at 1:35 am
Posted on 7/13/19 at 7:16 am to karmew32
It’s a title with an asterisk.
Everyone will always remember that
If I was in Toronto I’d be ashamed
Everyone will always remember that
If I was in Toronto I’d be ashamed
Posted on 7/13/19 at 7:22 am to I Bleed Garnet
I don’t do asterisk. But each title has a story a narrative. This “all titles are the same” or “as long as you win the title nothing else matters” narratives is casual fan fodder. Those of us who really follow the league are able to analyze a little more and see that some titles are better than others. Some are more of an accomplishment than others. The last two that weren’t won by Gsw were very much influenced by injury. Very very much influenced tbt.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 7:29 am to karmew32
How were the Warriors built any less fair than the 2018 Rockets?
Posted on 7/13/19 at 10:27 am to FleurDeLonestar
Simple. The Warriors, thanks to the fluke cap spike, were able to poach an MVP-caliber player from a fellow title contender to stack onto their already title-contending team. The Rockets never did such a heinous act.
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