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re: Why are there less “injuries” and “load management” in the NHL?
Posted on 2/14/26 at 5:51 am to tiggerfan02 2021
Posted on 2/14/26 at 5:51 am to tiggerfan02 2021
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IMHO hockey players are probably the most well-conditioned and strongest professional athletes pound for pound.
I'd go with male gymnasts. They're just all kinda small.
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Plus, if you are not one tough SOB, you aren't playing pro hockey.
Hockey players are probably the toughest outside of actual direct combat sports like boxing and MMA.
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Posted on 2/14/26 at 11:16 am to Cosmo
Those guys will play thru injuries. The year the Stars won the Stanley cup seven guys required surgeries the next week. They aren't 7 foot tall freaks who's bodies easily break. The first time I went into an NHL locker room I was surprised that most of them were my height. I'm only 5;10". You can't tell with all of their gear, but they're in great shape. Constant skating requires it.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 12:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You don't have the same sort of explosive movements in hockey, which decreases the chances of these sorts of progressions
It's not that yall are dumb, you're just ignorant of the facts. When I don't know much about a subject I generally keep my mouth shut about it so I don't put my ignorance on display.
Some of y'all apparently handle things differently.
The collisions alone in hockey are just as if not far more explosive than anything a basketball player does on the court.
Then there's getting hit with a frozen piece of rubber doing 120mph. It doesn't matter where it hits or what protection you have, it still hurts like hell.
All professional hockey players come right up against that line of tough/crazy. You have to be a little bit nuts to play that sport at its highest levels.
Basketball is barely even a sport in comparison, when it comes to the physicality of the two.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 12:30 pm to TheGasMan
quote:crazy how many anti free market marxists we have on this board
overpaid drama queens on the court.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 12:49 pm to WestCoastAg
Just replying to you because you're the most recent comment.
Most of the posts in this thread are so laughably dumb.
Most of the posts in this thread are so laughably dumb.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 12:59 pm to ZenFNmaster
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The collisions alone in hockey are just as if not far more explosive than anything a basketball player does on the court.
Then there's getting hit with a frozen piece of rubber doing 120mph. It doesn't matter where it hits or what protection you have, it still hurts like hell.
All professional hockey players come right up against that line of tough/crazy.
Cool, but you're not really responding to my point.
Nobody is saying hockey players aren't tough or aren't athletic in their own way. It's just not the type of athleticism that's common referred to, at least in American sports, which is explosive movements. That explosiveness, especially at those heights, answer the question in OP specifically. Having to reference completely irrelevant stuff to prop up hockey players does nothing to advance the discussion.
If we had a combine of sprints, vertical leaps, long jumps, and other tests of explosiveness and COD, the NBA would be freak of freaks doing what they do at their height.
Hockey dorks are always so weird and defensive.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
It's a totally different sport.
I guarantee that hockey players would out squat and deadlift NBA players players.
It all depends how you measure athleticism.
Plus the hands and eye coordination of heckey players is the same for both sports in a different way.
The answer to the thread is this picture:
This dude finished the game wearing a face shield
Hockey guys are different people. The culture is different. There's no challenge to that.
I guarantee that hockey players would out squat and deadlift NBA players players.
It all depends how you measure athleticism.
Plus the hands and eye coordination of heckey players is the same for both sports in a different way.
The answer to the thread is this picture:
This dude finished the game wearing a face shield
Hockey guys are different people. The culture is different. There's no challenge to that.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:17 pm to Cosmo
They're glorified figure skaters. What injuries are they supposed to get?
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:19 pm to KosmoCramer
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It's a totally different sport.
Yes, I know
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You don't have the same sort of explosive movements in hockey, which decreases the chances of these sorts of progressions
That was largely my point.
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The answer to the thread is this picture:
That picture literally has no relevance to the discussion of biomechanics and explosive movements.
That picture references toughness with skeletal injuries, which is no related in any way.
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Hockey guys are different people.
So are hockey nerds, which this thread keeps showing
Saying that NBA involves different and more explosive types of movement than hockey, which is why load management is necessary, in no way is critical of hockey....yet the massive chip on the shoulder of the hockey nerds compels them to pretend it is and respond in kind
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You don't have the same sort of explosive movements in hockey, which decreases the chances of these sorts of progressions
That was largely my point.
This is totally untrue. If anything, hockey requires more than the NBA because they can and will be checked while performing them. You're out of your element on this.
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Saying that NBA involves different and more explosive types of movement than hockey,
See above.
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which is why load management is necessary
Load management is necessary because everyone is now doing it to save the players for the playoffs. NBA players played every night for years.
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yet the massive chip on the shoulder of the hockey nerds compels them to pretend it is and respond in kind
I'm not exactly sure why people that enjoy hockey are nerds, but when you throw out clear fallacies about the sport, it inhibits a response.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:35 pm to KosmoCramer
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This is totally untrue.
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If anything, hockey requires more than the NBA because they can and will be checked while performing them.
You say it's untrue and then give an argument that isn't relevant to the point I made.
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NBA players played every night for years.
The game, bodies, athleticism requirements, height requirements, and movement requirements were different.
Again, this is the point. The way the NBA has developed (in the above ways) is pushing players past the limits of the human body.
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but when you throw out clear fallacies about the sport
Things that didn't happen
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
Have a lovely Valentine's day.
USA men play v. Denmark at 2:10 central if you're interested.
USA men play v. Denmark at 2:10 central if you're interested.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:38 pm to KosmoCramer
If it's the Olympics, I'm not watching, hockey or no hockey.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:38 pm to KosmoCramer
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I guarantee that hockey players would out squat and deadlift NBA players players.
Some embarrassing posts in here
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
All good. Not sure why, but you do you.
If we get the hopefully expected outcome of Canada vs USA hockey in the finals, it'll be an awesome sporting event.
If we get the hopefully expected outcome of Canada vs USA hockey in the finals, it'll be an awesome sporting event.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:41 pm to MusclesofBrussels
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Some embarrassing posts in here
Not sure which side you're on with this.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:52 pm to Boodis Man
This was phrased incorrectly, but the answer is that when the human body is moving on ice, when your joints take an impact from another player, your feet are free (in most cases) to slide just enough to keep torque off the knee and ankle. If your feet don't move when someone barrels into your lower body, you get severe knee injuries. If your feet can slide, then you might dodge an injury. In short, it's because it's played on ice.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 2:04 pm to nealnan8
Posted on 2/14/26 at 4:07 pm to Cosmo
I do appreciate this thread being made the day before we load manage our goalie in the Olympics
This post was edited on 2/14/26 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 3/18/26 at 5:35 am to SlowFlowPro
Right there in the title it asks why the phenomenon of load management doesn’t exist in the NHL.
Typical of a post by SFP, when unable to successfully argue the topic at hand, he resorts to juvenile debate tactics like moving the goalposts and name calling.
How about this explanation ? Hockey players aren’t little bitches like their hardwood contemporaries, or SFP.
Typical of a post by SFP, when unable to successfully argue the topic at hand, he resorts to juvenile debate tactics like moving the goalposts and name calling.
How about this explanation ? Hockey players aren’t little bitches like their hardwood contemporaries, or SFP.
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