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re: Why are front offices still throwing away cap dollars paying QB’s ridiculous money
Posted on 2/8/21 at 3:21 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
Posted on 2/8/21 at 3:21 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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And again, you would have a greater chance of drafting busts doing it your way and being stuck at .500 or below for a decade or more.
I’ll take that chance if it gives me a chance to win the big prize, which is the competitive goal.
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 3:34 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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And what if the QB's you draft suck? Which is more often to happen then not. You are gonna be starting over every 3 years and waste the careers of guys in their prime while they're stuck in mediocrity or worse.
And I wouldn't take it as a compliment. I'd take it that your premise of team building sucks and you couldn't be my GM, nor would any other team hire you w/that strategy.
Just take the L here.
Take the L because I wouldn't pay Cousins or Prescott $35M/year? The team that does pay those guys that much is going to take a lot of Ls. I have zero interest in being a long term decent team if it means I have no shot to win a Super Bowl.
My opinion is that just because a guy is a long time starter for a team doesn't mean he's a franchise QB nor should he be paid like one. Paying average QBs star money is how to guarantee you never win the big one.
For example, if the Browns end up extending Mayfield and have to sacrifice a lot of the talent on that roster as a result, they'll guarantee themselves to be a decent team who has no chance to win the Super Bowl.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 3:42 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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But they got lucky and were able to get an established franchise QB in Stafford. 9 times out of 10 that won't happen.
You're helping prove my point here. The Rams were NEVER going to win a Super Bowl with Goff getting paid that much money because he isn't good enough to elevate the rest of the roster around him to the level of play needed to get there. He was on a rookie deal in 2018 and that team was absolutely loaded as a result.
Goff offered them stability and generally decent QB play. If you're fine with that, more power to you. I'd rather keep cycling through QBs until I finally found one good enough to win a Super Bowl.
I like using the Kansas City example here. They were a good team with Alex Smith at QB, but they were never going to win a Super Bowl with him. Instead of paying him $25M/year and plateauing at 11-5 and the divisional round, they took a risk, traded him, and drafted Mahomes. I'd say that one worked out pretty well. They won't all be Mahomes, obviously, but they don't have to be. The Eagles won a Super Bowl with Wentz playing at a high level on a rookie deal and Foles as a cheap backup because the rest of that roster was loaded.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 4:55 pm to chalmetteowl
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that's dumb. why should one position on the field get special rules regarding the salary cap?
I would propose you can elect for any position.if you have a QB on a rookie contract or a team friendly contract and wanna pay your RB for a year why not?
I think It benefits the league to allow teams to keep their star players without hamstringing the rest of the team. The league probably is better off if you can actually build around the best QBs.
This post was edited on 2/8/21 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 2/8/21 at 5:44 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Bucs last year w/o Brady: 7-9
Bucs this year w/Brady: 15-5(counting playoffs and SB) and SB champs.
Posts like this are why I’m happy I’ll never be your GM.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 5:50 pm to VADawg
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I'd be fine with that as long as I finally hit on a QB draft pick who actually gives me a chance to win a Super Bowl. If the goal isn't to do whatever it takes to win a Super Bowl, then what is the point?
Again you missed the point of owning a football franchise. #1 goal is to make money. #2 is winning a championship. You think fielding shitty teams for a decade in hopes of striking gold is a way to maximise revenue?
Why bring in big name skill players when everyone knows you build a football team from the line out? Teams do it year after year. Cause you sell a lot more jerseys of RBs and QBs than centers and guards.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 6:01 pm to CatahoulaCur
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It’s business. Teams care about making money, not winning SBs. One does not equal the other.
Keep butts in seats and sell merchandise.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 6:52 pm to DeoreDX
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think fielding shitty teams for a decade in hopes of striking gold is a way to maximise revenue?
That should end this thread.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 6:56 pm to VADawg
You listed outliers. The Chiefs hit the jackpot. That happens 1 or 2 times out of 10. They gambled and won. But to base your entire team building philosophy on a couple of outliers and the hardest position to scout and hit on is no way to build long-term success.
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