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re: Whose better: Bobby Cox or Tony La Russa?

Posted on 7/18/21 at 6:30 pm to
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 6:30 pm to
Bobby.

But it's close.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 6:33 pm to
Tony got this, dude is tremendous
Posted by Inadvertent Whistle
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2015
5151 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 6:43 pm to
I'm a Cardinals fan, and I hate Larussa for the way he treated Ozzie Smith at the end of his career but LaRussa is the correct answer. Hell of a coach. 1st class a-hole.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 6:44 pm to
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No doubt. You're right. Cox was arguably the best ever at managing a starting rotation


Not what I was referring to.
I was referring to guys like Paul Bryd and others and can't think of right now. One guy signed with the Yankees after Mazzone resurrected his career.Got a big payday
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 6:49 pm to
Jared Wright
Posted by GeauxAggie972
Poterbin Residence
Member since Aug 2009
29534 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 7:00 pm to
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4341 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 7:08 pm to
They are basically the opposite people in that regard.
Posted by Fleur De Lethal
NOLA
Member since Aug 2009
985 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 7:17 pm to
Sure they made some retreads useful but Cox had Maddux Smoltz and Glavine for the majority of his run. TLR never had that kind of pitching talent to start with.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28073 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 7:32 pm to
Yep

Thanks
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
7106 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 8:04 pm to
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Does anyone really believe that LaRussa wouldn't have won multiple World Series with the 90's Braves rosters?

His A's teams were arguably more talented than the Braves and they still choked...so no.
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
7106 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 8:12 pm to
I shared that sentiment for years, but came to realize that Ozzie's time was up. His constant whining and absence from the organization for a decade didn't help his case either.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Inadvertent Whistle
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2015
5151 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 8:52 pm to
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I shared that sentiment for years, but came to realize that Ozzie's time was up. His constant whining and being absent from the organization for a decade didn't help his case either.


Agree about the absence. But I mean, he was getting replaced by Royce friggin Clayton. It's not like Derek Jeter was taking his job. I understand why he was pissed.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52716 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:06 pm to
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Cox was arguably the best ever at managing a starting rotation


I mean his starting rotation was all hall of famers half the time lol
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28073 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:38 pm to
quote:

A's teams were arguably more talented than the Braves and they still choked...so no.



More talented offensively than the early 90's of the Braves but the Braves teams from '97 up to '03 were loaded offensively.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
28931 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 11:54 pm to
It’s clearly LaRussa. He should probably have more than 3 WS wins, but look at a couple he did win: no business winning in ‘06 based on body of work, and pulled a rabbit out of the hat in ‘11. The guys also seemed to elevate every team he took over.

Took over a hapless Sox team in ‘79 and got them to the ALCS in ‘83. Took over a gutted A’s squad and promptly advanced to three WS, winning one. Took over the Cardinals when they hadn’t won a division title in 9 years and winds up turning them into perennial contenders.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
68963 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 3:45 am to
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Cox was very good at managing people but was clueless as a strategist and making game day decisions


Dude has the best roster on paper in baseball for 12 years. Won 1 world series.


fricking disappointment.

Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38923 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 4:54 am to
La Russa losing to the '88 Dodgers is unconscionable.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
81215 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 5:50 am to
LaRussa
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38923 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 6:27 am to
He lost to the WORST WS lineup of ALL-TIME with the Bash Brothers who do won about a million games that year.

Bobby choked alot but most likely didn't get two feet off the plate strikes in the WS like he got in the NL.

But those As should've won four in A row and the Florida State Braves should've won more than one.

This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 6:30 am
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
17145 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:41 am to
Bobby should have one more WS maybe two. 1996 should have been a win for sure. I was at Game 4 when it all came apart. Jim effin Leyritz. I can still see that damn home run going over the wall. 1991 could have gone either way. 1992 and 1999, the Blue Jays and Yanks were just better teams.
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