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Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:22 pm to ProjectP2294
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Elaborate
I'm not sure how I elaborate on that. I don't believe he makes that 50th anniversary team as a non-posthumous candidate.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:25 pm to ProjectP2294
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Elaborate.
As an example, Bernard King was a superior NBA player to Pete Maravich. Maravich made the 50th anniversary team; Bernard didn't.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:25 pm to bobbyray21
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I'm not sure how I elaborate on that.
Are you coginitively deficient? Explain why you think that.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:25 pm to tiggerthetooth
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a QB who was truly iconic and played into the narrative of creating the modern NFL. He gtes tons of bonus points for that.
I know. He lived down the street from the myth makers. If Joe Namath played in Oakland and Len Dawson or Daryle Lamonica played in New York, the narrative would be waaaaaayyyyyyy different.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:25 pm to bobbyray21
Pistol was a top 10 all time at passing, ball-handling, and shooting. What other player can say that?
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:26 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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Bert Blyleven.
/thread
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:26 pm to ProjectP2294
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Are you coginitively deficient? Explain why you think that.
Because I don't believe he was a top 50 NBA player.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:26 pm to bobbyray21
Namath
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:28 pm to bobbyray21
Dutch Lonborg- Naismith HOF inducted in 1973, was team manager for the 1960 U.S. men's Olympic team that was also inducted as a unit in 2010.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:29 pm to bobbyray21
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Bernard King was a superior NBA player to Pete Maravich.
Averaging 2 fewer points, 2 fewer assists, and only 1.5 more rebounds per game made him superior to Maravich?
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:29 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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Pistol was a top 10 all time at passing, ball-handling, and shooting. What other player can say that?
Is that why he averaged 5 assists per game?
Is that why he shot 43% in his best NBA season?
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:30 pm to ProjectP2294
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Averaging 2 fewer points, 2 fewer assists, and only 1.5 more rebounds per game made him superior to Maravich?
Bernard at his best -- i.e. before his knee injury -- was a top 5 player in the league. The same cannot be said for Pete.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:30 pm to BCMCubs
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Joe Namath.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:33 pm to ProjectP2294
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Averaging 2 fewer points, 2 fewer assists, and only 1.5 more rebounds per game made him superior to Maravich?
Moreover, in his best season, Pete had a .144 WS/48. This speaks volumes.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:33 pm to bobbyray21
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Bernard at his best -- i.e. before his knee injury -- was a top 5 player in the league. The same cannot be said for Pete.
Do you treat all of your opinions as if they are facts?
Maravich was better. Get over it. You act as if injuries only affected King and not Maravich. Maravich was a better scorer, had more assists, made more All NBA 1st and 2nd teams, and more all star games.
Those are actual facts.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:35 pm to lsutigers1992
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Because every time you hear about him, that's the quote. But when he "bought the groceries" in Dallas and Miami, what happened?
Maybe you don't have an agenda with Namath, sounds like you do with Parcells? He wanted to have total control, just like a good number of other coaches. So what? He's in the Hall as a coach, not a GM. He was not GM with Dallas ftr. He did improve every team he coached and you noticable left off his time in NE where he took over the worst team in the league and got them to the SB in 3 years.
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Maybe George Seifert should be in the Hall of Fame too. He won as many Super Bowls with someone else's players as Parcells did.
This isn't college football, so the some one else's players argument is even more lame here, plus Walsh was not the GM. However, the situations are not comprable. Seifert took over the Super Bowl Champs and well, won a Super Bowl. He also lost the NFC CG with the #1 team at home, twice, and did absolutly nothing in Carolina. There may have been some studs on the roster in NY when Parcells took over, but they did not win anything before he took over.
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I just cite the stats. He gets too much credit for "The Guarantee
you do not put the stats in context however. His stats today are god awful and would get someone benched 3-4 games in. During his time, under different rules and offenses his stats are comprable to others of his time.
I can go either way on Namath, so again, I don't think he fits this topic. He has become a favorite whipping boy of younger generations because of his stats.
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:36 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
Donald Trump - WWE Hall of Fame
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:37 pm to wizziko
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Donald Trump - WWE Hall of Fame
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:38 pm to H-Town Tiger
I am definitely not a Parcells fan. And I've restrained myself from the "Parcells won two Super Bowls with Belichick/Parcells won zero without Belichick/Belichick won three without Parcells" argument
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