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re: Who Wins the Heisman?
Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:37 am to Buckeye06
Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:37 am to Buckeye06
The crazy thing is, my top 4 might get just a single invite from them:
1. Marquise Lee - Best player in the land and no one is close
2. Johnny Football - Can't deny what he's done as of late
3. Braxton Miller - Best player in the land no one is taking about
4. Tajh Boyd - See Miller comment, accounted for 8 TDs last week
1. Marquise Lee - Best player in the land and no one is close
2. Johnny Football - Can't deny what he's done as of late
3. Braxton Miller - Best player in the land no one is taking about
4. Tajh Boyd - See Miller comment, accounted for 8 TDs last week
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:44 am to FootballNostradamus
My vote is Johnny Football
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:06 am to Kracka
Lee is far and away the best player in college football. Klein is the best QB/RB on a top 10 team
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:37 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Klein is the best QB/RB on a top 10 team
Clown post...
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:42 am to GalvoAg
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Clown post...
He is, don't be like everyone else and overreact to one game
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:46 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:50 am to VerlanderBEAST
Bc Klein runs it makes him a QB/RB 
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:55 am to VerlanderBEAST
Overreact to 1 game? When you lay an egg that badly against BAYLOR who is ranked 120 out of 120 division 1 teams in total defense you deserve to tumble out of the Heisman discussion.
Furthermore everyone in the country seems to want to try to point to the LSU game where manziel had a mediocre day by his standards (yet still put up good numbers) as an indication of why he shouldnt win it. Having an average day against a top 10 LSU defense VS having a poor day against the 120 ranked Baylor defense???
This choice should be clear cut who wins this award yet these voters are literally trying to make every excuse in the world why to give it to anyone other than manziel.
Freshman, sophomore, junior or senior the kid has the best numbers in the most difficult conference of the most difficult division in the nation with a win on the road over the consensus #1 team in the country where he played lights out.
If they take care of business against Missouri these voters need to stop jerking around and being wishy washy. Just because the rest of the "Heisman field" is poor doesnt negate the fact that Manziel is still the best player in the country.
Furthermore everyone in the country seems to want to try to point to the LSU game where manziel had a mediocre day by his standards (yet still put up good numbers) as an indication of why he shouldnt win it. Having an average day against a top 10 LSU defense VS having a poor day against the 120 ranked Baylor defense???
This choice should be clear cut who wins this award yet these voters are literally trying to make every excuse in the world why to give it to anyone other than manziel.
Freshman, sophomore, junior or senior the kid has the best numbers in the most difficult conference of the most difficult division in the nation with a win on the road over the consensus #1 team in the country where he played lights out.
If they take care of business against Missouri these voters need to stop jerking around and being wishy washy. Just because the rest of the "Heisman field" is poor doesnt negate the fact that Manziel is still the best player in the country.
This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 11:56 am
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:55 am to Pilot Tiger
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he's making tebow's heisman season look meh
With Texas A&M only having 2 games left in the season Johnny Manziel has a total of 38 touchdowns.. Tebow ended that year WITH 55 TOUCHDOWNS!!!
He had 32 passing touchdowns with 6 int (172 efficiency) to Johnny Manziels 21 touchdowns and 7 ints (155 efficiency)
He also had 23 rushing touchdowns to Johnnys 17.
Yes Johnny Manziels is a better rushing (per yards) and will most likely surpass Tebows passing yards (Tebow had like 3200 and Manziel will probably finish around 3500) Tim Tebows season was >>>>> JFF's.
Points > Yards
Is JFF good? Hell yeah. He will probably score another 6 touchdowns in the last 2 games and he should win the heisman, but to say his season makes Tebows season look "Meh" is just dumb.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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AD in 2004 got the biggest shaft of them all. OU was undefeated and he was the best player
Even if OU weren't undefeated that year, dude was fricking unreal as a RB. As a freshman, no less...
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:03 pm to SpartyGator
If HB7 would have stayed clean and played this year, anyone think he would be almost a lock for the Heisman by oputting up similar numbers as last year?
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:19 pm to d6k
Sam Montgomery says "Johnny Football"
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:20 pm to d6k
It should be Lee, Klein, or Manziel. It has happened before but I have a hard time giving Heisman's to QBs who look like they are constantly throwing into a strong headwind though.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:20 pm to FootballNostradamus
I don't usually watch TV during the week, so I honestly have no idea who the candidates are at this point.
I normally only have time to watch the LSU game and give or take another 1-2 games on Saturday, so I'm completely clueless as to who is making noise this year.
I normally only have time to watch the LSU game and give or take another 1-2 games on Saturday, so I'm completely clueless as to who is making noise this year.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:37 pm to brewhan davey
then it's a good thing you posted in this thread. 
marqise lee is definitely getting an invite at this point, right? ridiculous year. ill take manziel though. super against teo for some reason.
marqise lee is definitely getting an invite at this point, right? ridiculous year. ill take manziel though. super against teo for some reason.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:55 pm to rocket31
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JF is a) a freshman
No sophomore had won it before Tebow. This is irrelevant because it's not a MVP or a Best Player award.
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b) his team is not undefeated. that matters (for right or wrong)
Baylor and Florida were each 9-3 in the regular season when their Heisman winners won. IIRC, Southern Cal was 8-3/9-2 when Carson Palmer won as well.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 1:06 pm to Kafka
Crouch >>>>> than these;
Posted on 11/19/12 at 1:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Johnny Magic's stats:
johnny football is fricking shite up. he may finish with a better year than tebow or cammy cam in their respective years
Passing: 3,047 yards, 67.7%, 21 touchdowns, 7 interceptions, 155.1 rating
Rushing: 1,114 yards, 17 touchdowns, 6.5 average
Cam Newton's stats:
Passing: 2,854 yards, 66.1%, 30 touchdowns, 7 interceptions, 182.0 rating
Rushing: 1,473 yards, 20 touchdowns, 5.6 average
Tim Tebow's stats:
Passing: 3,286 yards, 66.9%, 32 touchdowns, 6 interceptions, 172.5 rating
Rushing: 895 yards, 23 touchdowns, 4.3 average
Tebow and Newton are still better, IMO. And I really like Johnny Magic.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 2:04 pm to FootballNostradamus
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1. Marquise Lee - Best player in the land and no one is close
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3. Braxton Miller - Best player in the land no one is taking about
4. Tajh Boyd - See Miller comment, accounted for 8 TDs last week
Posted on 11/19/12 at 2:26 pm to bullard21k
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Overreact to 1 game? When you lay an egg that badly against BAYLOR who is ranked 120 out of 120 division 1 teams in total defense you deserve to tumble out of the Heisman discussion.
Furthermore everyone in the country seems to want to try to point to the LSU game where manziel had a mediocre day by his standards (yet still put up good numbers) as an indication of why he shouldnt win it. Having an average day against a top 10 LSU defense VS having a poor day against the 120 ranked Baylor defense???
This choice should be clear cut who wins this award yet these voters are literally trying to make every excuse in the world why to give it to anyone other than manziel.
Freshman, sophomore, junior or senior the kid has the best numbers in the most difficult conference of the most difficult division in the nation with a win on the road over the consensus #1 team in the country where he played lights out.
If they take care of business against Missouri these voters need to stop jerking around and being wishy washy. Just because the rest of the "Heisman field" is poor doesnt negate the fact that Manziel is still the best player in the country.
Texas A&M had had 3 big games and Manziel played poorly in 2 of them. Klein has played big every single week except last week which he still had 3 tds.
Oh and as for the top conference crap the numbers this year show the Big 12 has been better
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