re: Who should the mavs get to help luka

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Barnes went to Dallas, as the star and failed. Love never got the Wolves to the playoffs. In Westbrooks 1st year as the star, he won league MVP.

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It makes zero difference to my point.

Do you agree or disagree that Barnes value would change based on how much it costs for him to play? Please answer this question for me

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My logic is he a legendary player. When the Wizards trade Beal, he is going to carry that franchise. Will he be worth the contract then? Will it still be bad? If he carries that team to the 8th seed next year, sans Beal, is an all star averaging 25/10/10.. how is he viewed then?

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If Beal is 30 plus years old making 40-50 million dollars a season while his team is sitting in the 8th spot every season and no team wanted any part of that contract then absolutely he would have a bad contract at that time

And yes Westbrook’s contract would still be bad if he had a worse team around him.

I just don’t understand why you refuse to not see that there is a difference between your playing ability and your value relative to your contract. It’s the most basic economic structure in every sports league

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In Westbrooks 1st year as the star, he won league MVP. Then he averaged a triple double multiple seasons in a row. He carried a franchise and was immensely successful. That is a huge difference.

My logic is he a legendary player

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None of this has to do with a 31 year old 25% three point shooter. His play nearly a decade ago has nothing to do with his value as an asset today.

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If he carries that team to the 8th seed next year, sans Beal, is an all star averaging 25/10/10.. how is he viewed then?

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Exactly the same. An aging high usage player that can't shoot and costs a shite ton of money

I don't understand your point. Past success is tied to compensation in the NBA. If you have accomplished and proven something, it is acknowledged and assumed that you can replicate. Westbrook is an alpha and paid as one. When you flip him to a secondary, of course his contract becomes expensive. That doesn't take away his ability to reverting back to being an alpha, at a very high level.

Is that what you are trying to point out. I mean I get it. But Westbrook is a 1. Not his fault people keep trying to shoehorn him as a 2 and it does limit his value around the league. I will concede that. But that does make it bad or him overpaid.

BTW, my example was of Westbrook carrying the Wizards, which he will next season..

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I don't understand your point.

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Would you like a free steak?

(Yes)

Would you like that same steak but you have to pay 5,000 dollars for it?

Answer that question for me and maybe we can make progress on this elementary point I am making

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Westbrook is an alpha and paid as one. When you flip him to a secondary, of course his contract becomes expensive. That doesn't take away his ability to reverting back to being an alpha, at a very high level.

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“Alpha” or not, he’s absolutely overpaid. No one in the league, including the wizards want to pay him that contract. But that’s the beauty of fully guaranteed contracts. Teams have to pay the piper for the bad contracts they sign.

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BTW, my example was of Westbrook carrying the Wizards, which he will next season..

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And his contract will still be bad

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it does limit his value around the league.

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But that doesnt make it him overpaid.

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These two sentences directly contradict themselves

I haven’t seen Porzingis much this year. Maybe just keep him, upgrade slightly at the other starting spots/bench and give their young nucleus a few years to grow together?

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haven’t seen Porzingis much this year. Maybe just keep him, upgrade slightly at the other starting spots/bench and give their young nucleus a few years to grow together?

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That’s what they will try to do, but it’s not really by choice

People talk about this great run to end the season the wizards had. They lost 15 of their last 20 games to teams .500 or better. They beat the bum teams and squeaked in as a playin team in a soft conference. There is nothing to celebrate about that. Then they couldn’t even beat Philly with embiid out.

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People talk about this great run to end the season the wizards had. They lost 15 of their last 20 games to teams .500 or better. They beat the bum teams and squeaked in as a playin team in a soft conference. There is nothing to celebrate about that. Then they couldn’t even beat Philly with embiid out.

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So why would he want to stay there?????