re: When do you think stadiums will return to full capacity?

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Doesn’t this extend to the entertainment industry as well? By keeping movie theaters empty, you are killing a main source of profit by film companies. What do politicians gain by this?

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You’re either overthinking or trying to apply logic in situations where logic simply doesn’t exist.

What do politicians have to gain by closing in-person dining while they host expensive private meals at lavish restaurants?

What do politicians have to gain by telling people not to travel while they are sitting in an airport waiting to board a flight or at a resort in Mexico?

What do politicians have to gain by telling people not to visit extended family for the holidays while they’re visiting their parents that live in a different state?

Just because it doesn’t make sense doesn’t mean they wouldn’t do it.

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What do politicians have to gain by closing in-person dining while they host expensive private meals at lavish restaurants?

What do politicians have to gain by telling people not to travel while they are sitting in an airport waiting to board a flight or at a resort in Mexico?

What do politicians have to gain by telling people not to visit extended family for the holidays while they’re visiting their parents that live in a different state?

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Politicians being hypocrites is nothing new . I don't think that means they get excited about the thought of keeping people locked down once we've gotten a handle on this virus.

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Despite what you wanna believe, people are losing loved ones that they don't need to lose every day to this virus and it hasn't shown signs of significantly slowing down.

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People live and people die. That has happened since literally the beginning of time. Motor vehicles, cigarettes, alcohol, guns, unhealthy foods, etc have all led to people “losing loved ones they didn’t need to lose.” Car crashes, heart disease, lung cancer, gunshot victims have all killed thousands of times more than covid has up to this point, and will continue to do so moving forward. Yet there are basically no restrictions in place preventing those things from being used outside of minimum age requirements.

Every year the flu kills tens of thousands of people, and hospitalizes many more pushing some areas to the brink of their capacity. When have we ever seen restaurants forced to close, kids not allowed to attend school, and people required to stay in their homes during a flu season?

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I've seen it firsthand. Nobody enjoys what's going on right now.

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I’ve had loved ones die in car crashes. I don’t want or expect roads to be shutdown and people not allowed to drive anymore as a result.

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Honestly man, you think politicians all over the world are just on a power trip and not following the lead of their health experts?

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What I think is irrelevant. The fact is the entire world is doing the same shite, something you acted as if were impossible.

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vaccinating the majority of the population will 100% mean the end of restrictions.

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According to whom? People are still going to get sick from the virus after the vaccine has been administered to the majority of the population.

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Sure it's a possibility but very unlikely that the vaccine will provide absolutely zero protection.

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You know this how?

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We'll get better at fighting it

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That has already happened. Why haven’t the restrictions gone away?

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Thankfully we don't need a 100% vaccination rate and I think more and more people will come around as their friends and family around them get the vaccine and they realize it's our best chance at normalcy.

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Why are you now talking about the vaccine being s chance at normalcy when you’ve previously characterized it as a guarantee?

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Please just give me a good reason to believe that continuing lockdowns after an effective vaccine has been widely distributed and administered and infection and death rates drop significantly will benefit politicians somehow.

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I don’t have a good reason. But whatever it is, it’s probably very similar to the same reason they have been and are currently continuing lockdowns that are destroying far more lives than the virus ever will.

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infection and death rates drop significantly

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Define drop significantly. How much lower can these get from current figures?

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You don't like the message so you pretend it doesn't exist.

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This guy is retarded

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Motor vehicles, cigarettes, alcohol

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We have seatbelts and other safety features in cars and they are also a necessary part of our society. Cigarettes are a personal choice that for the most part are only gonna harm the user, same with alcohol. There's basically nothing more than what we already do to prevent those.

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guns

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Not touching that one .

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heart disease, lung cancer

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We have proven and effective treatments and preventative measures for those. You also can't give your heart disease or lung cancer to people around you.

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Every year the flu kills tens of thousands of people, and hospitalizes many more pushing some areas to the brink of their capacity. When have we ever seen restaurants forced to close, kids not allowed to attend school, and people required to stay in their homes during a flu season?

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I thought this narrative had died. COVID is still significantly worse than the flu, and we also have an annual vaccine for the flu as well as a therapeutic that directly targets the virus.

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The fact is the entire world is doing the same shite, something you acted as if were impossible.

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You're either misunderstanding or misrepresenting what I'm saying. Politicians are keeping lockdowns currently because they're being advised by leading health experts that it's still necessary at this point in time. I do not believe they will choose to not listen to those experts and continue lockdowns when they are told that it will be safe to get rid of restrictions.

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People are still going to get sick from the virus after the vaccine has been administered to the majority of the population.

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More than likely, yeah. We likely will never get rid of this thing entirely, but we will live with it once we have effective vaccines and therapeutics as stated above. The numbers won't be nearly as devastating at that point.

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You know this how?

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Ray says, “There is no evidence at this point that immune responses driven by current vaccines would not work against this new strain.”

“We deal with mutations every year for flu virus, and will keep an eye on this one and track it,” says Bollinger. “If there would ever be a major mutation, the vaccine development process accommodates changes, if necessary, but we’re not at the point when we need to consider that,” he explains. “The antibodies created by the current vaccines should still work.”

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That has already happened. Why haven’t the restrictions gone away?

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We really aren't THAT much better than we were at the start. The only thing really shown to have significant benefit at this time are steroids which don't really do anything to the virus but soften the massive inflammatory response to it. The only other thing we really use in addition right now is remdesivir but the data aren't really that strong on it's effectiveness. Basically our strategy at this time is to give steroids to hypoxic patients and provide supportive care and hope they get better.

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Why are you now talking about the vaccine being s chance at normalcy when you’ve previously characterized it as a guarantee?

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Guess I should have clarified a little better but an EFFECTIVE vaccine given to the majority of the population will 100% mean the end of lockdowns. We are still erring on the side of caution until we know for sure.

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Define drop significantly. How much lower can these get from current figures?

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If I had that answer I'd be more than a lowly resident . I will trust the people who have been doing this longer than me and are much smarter than me to use solid judgement on when it seems safe to return to normal.

I don't think this is gonna go anywhere so I probably won't stay in this thread but I really think things are gonna get better sooner than you realize. Just please get your vaccine and have your friends and family do the same when the time comes. Have faith in doctors and researchers and do your small part to help. We will beat this in the end.

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Can’t tell if you’re being serious or not but regardless where do some of you people come up with these ideas?

I don’t care what side of the political spectrum you’re on, but good lord some of these comments are just downright awful.

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Did we get back to normal after 9/11?

September

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I like the empty NFL stadiums where defensive units celebrate and pose after a turnovers in front of cardboards.

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I'm more partial to the fake crowd noise, especially booing, over the TV broadcast.
Do they pipe that in over stadium PAs also?

2022

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But what does this have to do with letting people in stadiums?

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Nothing. You’re responding to paranoid, very stupid people.

Imagine thinking part of the new world orders plan is to only have 600 people in Alex Box Stadium