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What’s the real reason for poor non-playoff bowl attendance?

Posted on 12/31/25 at 4:54 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
29232 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 4:54 pm
I’m not talking about these games with Sun Belt and AAC squads. I’m watching the Citrus Bowl…two good teams, playing hard, passionate fanbases, and the upper decks are roughly half full. Are there not enough people in the Orlando area that want to see a good game at a cheap price?

The same can be said for the Gator Bowl. I didn’t see the Reliaquest crowd. These games are no more meaningless now than they ever were. I am convinced they are still rewards for the players, as most of these guys aren’t going to play at the next level anyway.

I make it a point to go to Houston or San Antonio every year for those bowls, and the Alamo seems to be one of the few that has been immune to the declines. You can always count on good matchups for some of these bowls. I can even understand why Texas and Michigan fans wouldn’t travel after dropping cash on recent playoff runs, but the upper decks are usually filled with locals, yeah?

I hate seeing yet another aspect of sports that I loved trending downward.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44251 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 5:02 pm to
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These games are no more meaningless now than they ever were.


disagree, now with the portal and opt outs the team on the field in the bowl game isn't the team that was on the field in the regular season. Teams now would rather pay a fine then go to some of the bowl games.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
55722 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 5:03 pm to
It’s always been rare for non major bowls to be completely filled. I recall plenty of empty sections during past Outback Bowls, for instance.
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
3930 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 5:08 pm to
Because shite is expensive as hell and none of these games matter. Even ticket prices to playoff games are showing weak demand. It cost like $40 to go to the Cotton Bowl.

College football needs to move these games to campus. It’s ridiculous to expect your fanbase to travel across country for 3 straight playoff games.

Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
10125 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 5:10 pm to
I think Iowa and Vandy both sold out their ticket allotment for the Reliaquest. Both brought decent amount of fans. That said, the upper deck was empty.

I read on the Iowa board that Iowa fans down there noted there was zero local coverage of the game in Tampa. I'm guessing there isn't much local support. Too bad because it was a good game.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
29232 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 5:27 pm to
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Because shite is expensive as hell


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Even ticket prices to playoff games are showing weak demand. It cost like $40 to go to the Cotton Bowl.


Does not compute. That’s extremely cheap, and I’m a poor. Going to see a top 25 matchup, or something similar, for $50? That’s good value.

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none of these games matter.


Did the Citrus Bowl ever matter? The Alamo Bowl?

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College football needs to move these games to campus. It’s ridiculous to expect your fanbase to travel across country for 3 straight playoff games.


I agree. But my post specifically mentioned non-playoff games.
Posted by OK Roughneck
The Sooner State
Member since Aug 2021
17593 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 5:31 pm to
I would hate spending the money to go to a bowl that wasn't in the CFP knowing some of my key players may be sitting out and not playing.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
29232 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 5:34 pm to
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I'm guessing there isn't much local support. Too bad because it was a good game.


That’s what I’m suggesting. The crowds for these games are mostly dependent on locals/sponsors, etc. The fanbases for big schools will typically buy the allotment, but upper decks and cheap seats are left to the public. If I lived within an hour of Jax, Orlando, or Tampa, I’d go to those games every year.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83251 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 5:43 pm to
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These games are no more meaningless now than they ever were.

Logically this is correct. But with the expanded playoff, they still feel cheaper.

And also, I think bowl games suffer the same problem as movie theaters. People can watch from the comfort of home on nice TV setups.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83251 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 5:46 pm to
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Reliaquest


I wonder if the goofy names of some of these bowls have had any small effect on their prestige.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
29232 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 5:46 pm to
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I would hate spending the money to go to a bowl that wasn't in the CFP knowing some of my key players may be sitting out and not playing.


This is key. I did go to the LSU-K State game where we had 36 scholarship players. I’m all about cheap tickets and a short drive. I guess if you go to the game just for a fun little trip, it’s different.
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
10125 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 5:47 pm to
With a fridge full of beer, no lines, and get to click between multiple games.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
31121 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 5:51 pm to
Expand the playoffs, give the top 6 two buys and get rid of all the other bowls. It’s fricking stupid.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23326 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 5:58 pm to
I read that all bowls are still cash flow positive.....I don't see it.
Posted by SuperflyLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
1101 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 6:04 pm to
The cost of tickets is too damn high. I considered making a long weekend out of the game in Houston. Checked a few weeks ago, cost of the cheap seats was $150 each plus fees. Not paying $500-600 for 3 seats at the top of the stadium to see players take the field for the first time all year. I realize that if I looked the day before tickets are probably cheaper, but I need a few weeks to make it work with work. Until they do something with corporate buyers and resellers grabbing all the seats to sell at a markup there is gonna be alot of empty seats.
Posted by cubbynole
Member since Mar 2024
156 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 6:12 pm to
I couldn’t get over how small the crowd was at the Music City Bowl yesterday. The Vols have sold out the game in their other appearances, couldn’t have been 40k there yesterday. Hell, Titans tickets were going for more than this game.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38439 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 6:12 pm to
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now with the portal and opt outs the team on the field in the bowl game isn't the team that was on the field in the regular season.
nor will it be next years team.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30225 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 6:24 pm to
Many of the players don’t care. Why should I?

I wouldn’t pay a penny to go to one of these shitty games.
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
3930 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 6:35 pm to
Flights, hotel, lunch/dinner, drinks etc is a minimum $700 trip. And that’s on the low end assuming you’re only going 1 night. Probably closer to a grand.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
29232 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 7:00 pm to
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Checked a few weeks ago, cost of the cheap seats was $150 each plus fees


Not sure what you checked, but I sold a pair for that game for $38 each a week prior. They released seats in the upper level a week prior for $49 including fees. This was on stubhub and Ticketmaster.
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