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What would have been the sweet spot for CFB to maintain tradition but crown a true champ?
Posted on 11/10/26 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 11/10/26 at 3:38 pm
24 team CFP is turning it into march madness where luck/attrition become much bigger factors in determining a champion and discounting the regular season.
Pre-BCS and its precursors, you were still somewhat hampered by the bowl/conference tie-ins that could prevent a true 1 vs 2 title game.
BCS 1 v 2 had flaws especially with its selection process, but the regular season was still important.
Ultimately once we started moving towards shedding the old system with the conference tie ins in order to get a true national championship game, old traditions were going to die off. But it really sucks that the college football regular season, which was an incredibly unique and experience among North American sports, is now forever changed and will never have the same stakes and atmosphere.
I remember in the early days of the BCS there was talk of a plus one system, where the normal pre- BCS/alliance bowl season happened and after all the major bowls the top 2 teams get picked for the national title game. I think a lot of the pushback at the time was concern over the players having to play an extra game, which is hilarious to think about now. It’s unfortunate that the cat is out of the bag and we’ll never recapture the spirit of college football again
Pre-BCS and its precursors, you were still somewhat hampered by the bowl/conference tie-ins that could prevent a true 1 vs 2 title game.
BCS 1 v 2 had flaws especially with its selection process, but the regular season was still important.
Ultimately once we started moving towards shedding the old system with the conference tie ins in order to get a true national championship game, old traditions were going to die off. But it really sucks that the college football regular season, which was an incredibly unique and experience among North American sports, is now forever changed and will never have the same stakes and atmosphere.
I remember in the early days of the BCS there was talk of a plus one system, where the normal pre- BCS/alliance bowl season happened and after all the major bowls the top 2 teams get picked for the national title game. I think a lot of the pushback at the time was concern over the players having to play an extra game, which is hilarious to think about now. It’s unfortunate that the cat is out of the bag and we’ll never recapture the spirit of college football again
Posted on 11/10/26 at 3:43 pm to vengeanceofbrain
There is no maintaining tradition. CFB is donezo
Posted on 11/10/26 at 3:47 pm to vengeanceofbrain
I'd prefer 16 with homes games 1st 2 rounds.. could not care less about salvaging any bowl game tradition
Posted on 11/10/26 at 3:48 pm to vengeanceofbrain
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Pre-BCS and its precursors, you were still somewhat hampered by the bowl/conference tie-ins that could prevent a true 1 vs 2 title game.
SOMEWHAT hampered? This is why I can't take the arguments made by people who refuse to see the benefits of a 24 team playoff seriously.
In your world, it was entirely possible to have some mix of:
#1 Michigan vs #12 UCLA in the Rose Bowl
#2 Georgia vs #5 Texas in the Sugar Bowl
#4 Miami vs #6 Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl
#3 Alabama vs #15 Boise St in the Fiesta Bowl
And you somehow shite out a national champion from that scenario. But it "somewhat" hampered. And this is traditions yall are crying about getting away from.
I have yet to hear a decent argument as to why having more solid/meaningful college football match ups in Dec. and Jan is a bad thing.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 11/10/26 at 3:49 pm to yaherrdme
It’s not really about the bowl games though, it’s more that the regular season games have been devalued so much. And that was one of the truly unique things about college football especially as the other professional sports expanded their playoffs.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 3:50 pm to vengeanceofbrain
I hate what bowl season has become. Bowl season as a kid was so much fun. Christmas break, games nightly with a fire going. 
Posted on 11/10/26 at 3:50 pm to vengeanceofbrain
To me there were always 2 scenarios:
1. 4 12-16 team conferences. Top 4 teams from each conference do "regional" semis and finals. Each team has 1 team advance to the final 4 national bracket. That's a 16 team playoff on neutral fields in some capacity
2. 8 teams the end. Byes seem like a dumb idea to me. If you want first round on campus I'm fine with that. Better to use the BCS bowl sites for most of those games as they will be massive every year. Kind of what they are currently doing but 12 teams means some fans need to go to 4 games if their team makes it all the way (Miami last year).
1. 4 12-16 team conferences. Top 4 teams from each conference do "regional" semis and finals. Each team has 1 team advance to the final 4 national bracket. That's a 16 team playoff on neutral fields in some capacity
2. 8 teams the end. Byes seem like a dumb idea to me. If you want first round on campus I'm fine with that. Better to use the BCS bowl sites for most of those games as they will be massive every year. Kind of what they are currently doing but 12 teams means some fans need to go to 4 games if their team makes it all the way (Miami last year).
Posted on 11/10/26 at 3:52 pm to Billy Blanks
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I hate what bowl season has become. Bowl season as a kid was so much fun. Christmas break, games nightly with a fire going.
Bowl season was EXACTLY then as it has been for years. There are games being played nightly. You can light a fire if you wish. None of that has changed. What has probably changed is the fact that you have gotten older, priorities have changed, responsibilities have grown, and you have wised up to the fact that bowl games don't really carry very much meaning. But at the same time refuse to believe that they never did have very much meaning.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 3:52 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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I have yet to hear a decent argument as to why having more solid/meaningful college football match ups in Dec. and Jan is a bad thing.
Because the long time rivalries/big time games that have made the history of CFB just don't matter anymore. Good games in Dec/January is great, but now the games in Sept-November don't matter as much
If Michigan/OSU are both 10-1 going into their game, who cares? Obviously you care to win and as a competitor you care, but every season prior to 2024, that game basically was a season ender for one team. And the other team carried the glory for 364 days.
Michigan fans can say they beat OSU in 2024, but OSU won the national title
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 11/10/26 at 3:53 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
I’m not trying to say there weren’t any flaws with it pre BCS. I am just saying it was unique and the regular season was unlike any other in sports. Now the regular season has lost so much meaning, and IMO it has overcorrected too much. Yes we get a definitive championship tournament, but even a tournament (especially a large one) has its own flaws in determining a true champion
Posted on 11/10/26 at 3:56 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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Bowl season was EXACTLY then as it has been for years. There are games being played nightly. You can light a fire if you wish. None of that has changed. What has probably changed is the fact that you have gotten older, priorities have changed, responsibilities have grown, and you have wised up to the fact that bowl games don't really carry very much meaning. But at the same time refuse to believe that they never did have very much meaning.
All of the changes in the CFB landscape have contributed to this. There’s so many games and as pro salaries increased, I’m surprised it took as long as it did for players to realize they didn’t need to risk their pro earning potential in a meaningless exhibition game. The expanded playoff will actually help with cutting down opt outs
Posted on 11/10/26 at 3:56 pm to vengeanceofbrain
Four BCS bowls, followed by a national championship game, which would be determined at the conclusion of the four BCS games.
We never got that. It was called the "plus-one model"
Instead, they just kept the four BCS games and included a predetermined championship game.
We never got that. It was called the "plus-one model"
Instead, they just kept the four BCS games and included a predetermined championship game.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:05 pm to Buckeye06
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Because the long time rivalries/big time games that have made the history of CFB just don't matter anymore. Good games in Dec/January is great, but now the games in Sept-November don't matter as much
None of this is known to be the case. You can have 6-6 Michigan vs 11-0 Ohio State and that game still mattered to both teams at any point. Just assuming it isn't going to matter anymore is pure conjecture, and I believe will be not the case.
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If Michigan/OSU are both 10-1 going into their game, who cares?
If they were both 7-4 going into the game, did anybody care?
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:07 pm to Marciano1
I do think that would have been the best blend of crowning a champ while preserving old systems.
It is interesting to think about the player opt outs and the general apathy that comes about at the end of the year when your team is no longer in the title picture and doesn’t have much to play for. I think the expanded playoff will help to combat that attitude and keep fans and players more invested.
It is interesting to think about the player opt outs and the general apathy that comes about at the end of the year when your team is no longer in the title picture and doesn’t have much to play for. I think the expanded playoff will help to combat that attitude and keep fans and players more invested.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:08 pm to vengeanceofbrain
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I am just saying it was unique and the regular season was unlike any other in sports
It was "unique" because it was literally the only league that crowned a champion in such a ridiculous way. That's not a reason to keep it the same. I see every move being made and moving towards a better solution, as long as it's set up correctly.
I want first 2 rounds of playoffs to be at home.
I want only 1 group of 5 auto big at most. I would rather take the highest rated 24 teams, and have no auto qualifies at all. Give me the best 24 teams, so I can watch the best possible matchs up to end the season. I see no reason to complain about having this.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:09 pm to Buckeye06
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2. 8 teams the end. Byes seem like a dumb idea to me. If you want first round on campus I'm fine with that. Better to use the BCS bowl sites for most of those games as they will be massive every year. Kind of what they are currently doing but 12 teams means some fans need to go to 4 games if their team makes it all the way (Miami last year).
Agree with this. I think they were fine with 4, but every now and then you would have 1-2 teams that were on the outside that may have had a legitimate argument.
Conference championships are being played on Dec 5th. You can have the first round on 12/19. 2nd round would be 1/02. National championship is already scheduled for 1/25
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:10 pm to vengeanceofbrain
I would rather a 4 team playoff than a 24 team playoff.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:11 pm to vengeanceofbrain
quote:Not really. Decades ago only about 6 teams had games that mattered by mid October. One, two losses you were done.
it’s more that the regular season games have been devalued so much. And that was one of the truly unique things about college football especially as the other professional sports expanded their playoffs
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:15 pm to Jake88
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Not really. Decades ago only about 6 teams had games that mattered by mid October. One, two losses you were done.
But MUHHHHH tradition....unique....
Good luck trying to get them to comprehend this.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:17 pm to TigerintheNO
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I would rather a 4 team playoff than a 24 team playoff.
I would rather a Florida State team (correctly) have to be left out of the playoffs after an undefeated season, because the goal is to get the best 4 teams in. That will never have to be the case anymore.
24 > 4.
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