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Posted on 8/26/14 at 5:42 pm to Korin
Champion of 5 power conferences
The conferences can determine who they send
The top Indy team
The top non Power 5
1 WildCard
I hate that it is 8. But then you get committee and play involved on all levels. You let the conference decide how they want to name their rep. The committee still has juice as it will name a WC and the 2 others.
Then seed them however, blind draw? Comp numbers? IDC, just seed them play the games and then enjoy.
ETA:
You have an out in case you screw up and dont win the conference with the Wild Card.
In the offseason then listen to everyone complain again.
The conferences can determine who they send
The top Indy team
The top non Power 5
1 WildCard
I hate that it is 8. But then you get committee and play involved on all levels. You let the conference decide how they want to name their rep. The committee still has juice as it will name a WC and the 2 others.
Then seed them however, blind draw? Comp numbers? IDC, just seed them play the games and then enjoy.
ETA:
You have an out in case you screw up and dont win the conference with the Wild Card.
In the offseason then listen to everyone complain again.
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 8/26/14 at 5:52 pm to The Boat
Take the best 8 teams. None of this shite guaranteeing spots for conference champs. If 4 of the teams are from the SEC and none are from the Big 10, guess what - play better football. No one bitched when the NCAA Basketball Tournament seeds were announced and three of the No. 1 seeds were from the ACC or Big East.
I also think you can still have bowls with a 8 team championship. After all, they're post-season exhibition games. I'll watch LSU play a good national opponent, even if they are out of the championship picture. (I'll watch that way before I watch a Big West-Sun Belt grudge match in the 2000 Flushes Toilet Bowl or whatever other garbage ESPN shows on a Wednesday evening in late December)
I also think you can still have bowls with a 8 team championship. After all, they're post-season exhibition games. I'll watch LSU play a good national opponent, even if they are out of the championship picture. (I'll watch that way before I watch a Big West-Sun Belt grudge match in the 2000 Flushes Toilet Bowl or whatever other garbage ESPN shows on a Wednesday evening in late December)
Posted on 8/26/14 at 5:58 pm to Korin
quote:
Cut the FBS in half (64 teams each).
2. 4 conferences with 16 teams each.
3. 8 playoff teams (4 conference winners, 4 at-large).
Assuming there are conference championship games, your scenario would include 4 teams that either lost or didn't play in their conference championship. No thanks. I say max is 4, but was perfectly fine with the bcs system.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:07 pm to The Boat
6 teams. Keeps the regular season relevant (by giving a bye) and opens the field for a wild card small division program.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:23 pm to timbo
So if hypothetically Bama's only loss one year is to LSU, who also beats previously undefeated Georgia in the SEC Championship, you're fine with LSU potentially having to beat both again to become national champs, while either only has to beat the Tigers once to win it all.
Something's got to be said for doing one's job in the regular season and if you don't, no matter how good you might be, you are left out. No second chances.
Something's got to be said for doing one's job in the regular season and if you don't, no matter how good you might be, you are left out. No second chances.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:25 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:Won me over. Change my vote to 4.
Disagree. 4 is the best. The point is to get the right two teams in the national championship game.
#1 and #2 are locks. #3 sometimes has an argument to be in the championship game. Because they sometimes have an argument, they get a shot. #4 rarely if ever has an argument to be in the championship game. Has there ever been a year where the top 4 teams all deserved to be in the championship game?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:30 pm to The Boat
No playoff at all. The BCS worked great.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:31 pm to TigerSaints318
quote:
BCS worked great
It did its job, put the top 2 teams in NCG. The only two times it may have not worked was in '11 and '03. But I agree it worked out better than given credit for.
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:35 pm to ULL Cool J
quote:
So if hypothetically Bama's only loss one year is to LSU, who also beats previously undefeated Georgia in the SEC Championship, you're fine with LSU potentially having to beat both again to become national champs, while either only has to beat the Tigers once to win it all.
Something's got to be said for doing one's job in the regular season and if you don't, no matter how good you might be, you are left out. No second chances.
Bingo. I don't think any league should get more than 1 team in. The best team in each of the P5 leagues is good enough to compete for the title. Just pick the best 4
Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:40 pm to The Boat
I think 8 is too many. I like 6 where the top 2 have byes. That gives the top 5 conferences all a chance to get at least one team in with an extra lagniappe spot.
And I don't mean conference champions automatically take up the 5 spots, I just mean I think that's less room for a really good team to get left out.
And I don't mean conference champions automatically take up the 5 spots, I just mean I think that's less room for a really good team to get left out.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:49 pm to sms151t
quote:
The only two times it may have not worked was in '11 and '03
In '04 and '09 you had undefeated teams from BCS conferences locked out, with no opportunity to prove themselves on the field.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:22 pm to The Boat
16 team playoff is ideal IMO. Split the big 5 conferences away from the rest of D1 and make them a new league. This ends the BS about "college kids not being able to handle it" .. then don't play in the big boy league .. Sorry.
I could live with 8 though. 4 is too few.
I could live with 8 though. 4 is too few.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:15 pm to The Boat
12 teams (10 conference champions, 2 at-large).
The goal of selecting teams for a playoff should be, IMO, to remove as much opinion as possible. However, because of independents, I don't think you can go with just the 10 conference champions, unless you want to force them into a conference. Also, two at-large teams does still give incentive to schedule decent non-conference games but I think six at-large bids would lessen the importance of the regular season games.
Another question is whether you want to give the lower five conferences an actual shot at the title. If so, a 12-team playoff would be best. If not, give them their own subdivision and then I would lower the number of playoff participants to five or six.
The goal of selecting teams for a playoff should be, IMO, to remove as much opinion as possible. However, because of independents, I don't think you can go with just the 10 conference champions, unless you want to force them into a conference. Also, two at-large teams does still give incentive to schedule decent non-conference games but I think six at-large bids would lessen the importance of the regular season games.
Another question is whether you want to give the lower five conferences an actual shot at the title. If so, a 12-team playoff would be best. If not, give them their own subdivision and then I would lower the number of playoff participants to five or six.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:18 pm to rocket31
quote:Well, if we're going to have a committee pick the playoff teams, why even keep scores at the games? Couldn't we just have the teams play for 60 minutes and then give them a score from 0-10 and then add the score up at the end of the season and the team with the highest score is the champion. It could be like gymnastics or figure skating or the current CFB playoff system.
Anyone who says conference winners needs their nuts chopped off so they can no longer reproduce.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:37 pm to ZZTIGERS
quote:
4 teams, using the former BCS standings to determine the teams.
This. Except I wouldn't mind it going to six teams with the top 2 getting a bye. I hate this "committee" approach. The BCS system did a really good job but the fundamental unbalanced nature of college football meant that a 3 or 4 seed would often have just as legitimate a claim to a spot in the title game as a 1 or 2.
With the committee those final seeds will be chosen for diversity of conference purposes rather than the BCS's more impartial system.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:40 pm to Sevendust912
My gut tells me that 6 would be the right number, but I want to see how things work out with the system we have starting this year.
I also think that the schedule should be set up so every year a team plays nine conference games, at least one OOC Power 5 team, and a max of 2 non Power 5 teams. No FCS schools allowed.
I also think that the schedule should be set up so every year a team plays nine conference games, at least one OOC Power 5 team, and a max of 2 non Power 5 teams. No FCS schools allowed.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:55 am to TN Bhoy
Just an interesting tidbit here. If we had a 16 team playoff which we should, this is who would have been in it the last few years.
2013
Florida State
Auburn
Alabama
Michigan State
Stanford
Baylor
Ohio State
Missouri
South Carolina
Oregon
Oklahoma
Clemson
Oklahoma State
Arizona State
UCF
LSU
2012
Notre Dame
Alabama
Florida
Oregon
Kansas State
stanford
Georgia
LSU
Texas A&M
South Carolina
Oklahoma
Florida State
Oregon state
Clemson
Northern Illinois
Nebraska
2011
LSU
Alabama
Oklahoma State
Stanford
Oregon
Arkansas
Boise State
Kansas State
South Carolina
wisconsin
Virginia Tech
Baylor
Michigan
Oklahoma
Clemson
Georgia
2010
Auburn
Oregon
TCU
Stanford
Wisconsin
Ohio State
Oklahoma
Arkansas
Michigan State
Boise State
LSU
Missouri
Virginia Tech
Oklahoma State
Nevada
Alabama
2013
Florida State
Auburn
Alabama
Michigan State
Stanford
Baylor
Ohio State
Missouri
South Carolina
Oregon
Oklahoma
Clemson
Oklahoma State
Arizona State
UCF
LSU
2012
Notre Dame
Alabama
Florida
Oregon
Kansas State
stanford
Georgia
LSU
Texas A&M
South Carolina
Oklahoma
Florida State
Oregon state
Clemson
Northern Illinois
Nebraska
2011
LSU
Alabama
Oklahoma State
Stanford
Oregon
Arkansas
Boise State
Kansas State
South Carolina
wisconsin
Virginia Tech
Baylor
Michigan
Oklahoma
Clemson
Georgia
2010
Auburn
Oregon
TCU
Stanford
Wisconsin
Ohio State
Oklahoma
Arkansas
Michigan State
Boise State
LSU
Missouri
Virginia Tech
Oklahoma State
Nevada
Alabama
Posted on 8/27/14 at 1:37 am to boom roasted
16 teams, determined by a panel, then instead of playing games we have a skills competition. The kickers kick field goals from different distances and angles and are graded by a panel.
Then the QBs get involved in an arm strength challenge, both standing and from the knees, then an accuracy competition throwing at targets and into shopping carts.
The D-linemen carry tires, the RBs run obstacle courses... You get the idea. Then after all the scores are calculated you take the top team and the last team and their head coaches play 36 holes of match play to determine the champion.
Then the QBs get involved in an arm strength challenge, both standing and from the knees, then an accuracy competition throwing at targets and into shopping carts.
The D-linemen carry tires, the RBs run obstacle courses... You get the idea. Then after all the scores are calculated you take the top team and the last team and their head coaches play 36 holes of match play to determine the champion.
This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 1:51 am
Posted on 8/27/14 at 7:23 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:
#1 and #2 are locks. #3 sometimes has an argument to be in the championship game. Because they sometimes have an argument, they get a shot. #4 rarely if ever has an argument to be in the championship game. Has there ever been a year where the top 4 teams all deserved to be in the championship game?
There have been years with 4 or more undefeated teams, just in the BCS era
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