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What is the minimum act requirement for UCLA and Alabama

Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:22 am
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:22 am
I'm listening to sports radio this morning and everybody is ripping the UCLA quarterback for his comments. But no one is mentioning the actual requirements for both schools. If there is a big difference in requirements I can see where his comment is valid. And what is the big reason for all this uproar?
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:28 am to
Because it's Alabama
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:28 am to
People get mad for no reason

What Rosen said is fine

He used Alabama as standard for excellence in college football
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
6533 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:28 am to
It's the internet people log on just to find something to get mad about.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:30 am to
quote:

People get mad for no reason

What Rosen said is fine

He used Alabama as standard for excellence in college football


all of this.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:31 am to
Greg McElroy is on the radio this morning acting like someone called his sister a w**** or something
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:48 am to
Greg McElroy just said that Notre Dame is not a top 10 job solely due to the academic standards of the program yet he throws the UCLA quarterback under the bus for his statements. What a f****** hypocrite
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35544 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:57 am to
UCLA

quote:

Admit rate — Overall

16.1%
Admits
16,494
Applicants
102,232
California Residents (% of admits)
56.3%

GPA and test scores of middle 25%-75% students

High School GPA
4.13 - 4.31
ACT Composite Score
30 - 34
ACT English Language Arts
28 - 32
SAT Evidence Based Reading & Writing
640 - 730
SAT Mathematics
640 - 770
SAT Essay
16 - 20



Alabama

quote:

Women Men Total
Applied 22,408 13,795 36,203
Accepted 12,055 7,345 19,400
Acceptance Rate 54% 53% 54%
Enrolled 4,194 3,017 7,211
Percent of Admitted Who Enrolled (Admission Yield) 35% 41% 37%

SAT Requirements (New SAT)

Reporting indicates the school consistently takes SAT composite scores down to 1070 on a 1600 scale, below which admission should be considered a reach. We estimate some students could be accepted with SAT's as low as 960. The estimated average SAT composite for admitted freshman is 1180 out of 1600. 21 percent of applicants submit SAT scores to the school. Note: SAT scores presented on this page have been adjusted upwards per the College Board's concordance tables for test takers after March 2016.
25th Percentile Score 75th Percentile Score
SAT Composite 1070 1290
SAT Reading 540 650
SAT Math 520 630
ACT Composite 22 31
ACT English 22 32
ACT Math 21 29


Not much to compare. UCLA is much more difficult to get into.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60152 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:10 am to
If you're a regular student. UCLA might be a bit tougher for requirements on student athletes but basing it off the requirements for regular students is ridiculous
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35544 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:13 am to
What else is there to base it off of? Who publishes what it takes for a football player to be admitted into a specific school? Yes, the NCAA has minimum requirements but that's it.

We all have kids that don't get in academically so we can agree that there is some standard in place. It happens more at some schools than others. A lot more at a few schools. I suspect that for a lot of schools the minimum NCAA requirement is adequate. Others can be more selective.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82030 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:17 am to
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like someone called his sister a w**** or something


Damn, can't even call females a "woman" these days.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:20 am to
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8641 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:28 am to
quote:

If you're a regular student. UCLA might be a bit tougher for requirements on student athletes but basing it off the requirements for regular students is ridiculous


Division I athletes have to meet minimum NCAA requirements, which is hardly anything difficult. Once those requirements are met, schools can impose requirements of their own on the student-athletes. As an example, this is the primary reason that Gary Andersen left Wisconsin for Oregon State, and these remarks were made publicly. He couldn't get players into school, especially from the JUCO ranks. I don't think there should be any doubt that UCLA places more-stringent requirements on its student-athletes than Alabama.
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 7:30 am
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:34 am to
quote:

Admits
16,494

GPA and test scores of middle 25%-75% students

High School GPA
4.13 - 4.31


So 3 quarters of that 16000 have GPAs over 4.0 because of "advanced" classes presumably?

Grade inflation is shite.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60152 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:37 am to
quote:

I don't think there should be any doubt that UCLA places more-stringent requirements on its student-athletes than Alabama.


Comparing it to the difference in requirements for regular students between the two schools is dumb though because we have no idea what the requirements are. And UCLA, just like basically every other major college football program, definitely has spots designated as exceptions to their self imposed requirements.
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Member since Dec 2015
10685 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:43 am to
No problems with what he said

Just like I have no problems if they ever get matched up in a bowl game or playoff he may get a couple extracurricular shots headed his way
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32453 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:49 am to
quote:

He used Alabama as standard for excellence in college football

And as a standard for retards
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30292 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 8:02 am to
Context.

Here is what he said:

quote:

Look, football and school don't go together. They just don't. Trying to do both is like trying to do two full-time jobs. There are guys who have no business being in school, but they're here because this is the path to the NFL. There's no other way. Then there's the other side that says raise the SAT eligibility requirements. OK, raise the SAT requirement at Alabama and see what kind of team they have. You lose athletes and then the product on the field suffers.


Followed up with

quote:

It's not that they shouldn't be in school. Human beings don't belong in school with our schedules. No one in their right mind should have a football player's schedule, and go to school. It's not that some players shouldn't be in school; it's just that universities should help them more -- instead of just finding ways to keep them eligible.

Any time any player puts into school will take away from the time they could put into football. They don't realize that they're getting screwed until it's too late. You have a bunch of people at the universities who are supposed to help you out, and they're more interested in helping you stay eligible. At some point, universities have to do more to prepare players for university life and help them succeed beyond football. There's so much money being made in this sport. It's a crime to not do everything you can to help the people who are making it for those who are spending it.


Sounds like he's right to me and could easily have said any school, he just picked Alabama because they are currently the 800 pound gorilla.

Oh, and frick Alabama.
Posted by Maniac979
The Great State of Texas
Member since Jan 2012
1904 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 8:13 am to
quote:

And UCLA, just like basically every other major college football program, definitely has spots designated as exceptions to their self imposed requirements.

LINK?
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 8:32 am to
I wonder how many recent UCLA grads can't read like certain Gump grads.
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