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re: What in the world is going down in Waco? (Update: Player found guilty of sexual assault)

Posted on 8/21/15 at 7:52 pm to
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118102 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 7:52 pm to
Nerds are about to get fired.
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16878 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 7:53 pm to
Wanna bet.

Maybe an admissions nerd if any.
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 7:55 pm
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14603 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 7:54 pm to
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Ken Starr


talk about asshats
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
22372 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 8:38 pm to
quote:

first met Briles near the end of his time at UH. His daughter said the AD hated him and I couldn't figure out why since he had built a winning program. It was bad enough that they were afraid he was going to get fired.


Oddly enough, that AD ended up getting fired for unrelated reasons. I know there were a lot of hurt feelings among boosters, to whom Briles was making big promises while secretly working the deal with Baylor ( and taking RGIII with him), but that all came out after the fact. I doubt he was really in danger of being fired unless there were serious problems behind the scenes.
Posted by XKEnut
Member since Jan 2010
1852 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 9:22 pm to
The fam thought he was going to be fired. From the horse's mouth.
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 9:23 pm
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
59932 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 10:06 pm to
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that the jury found him guilty of rape but then only recommended 8 years of probation for his punishment.


This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6250 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 10:35 pm to
I don't know about the he said/she said between Briles and Peterson.
But Baylor's claim that they investigated this and found nothing lacks basic credulity in the face of the indictment, much less conviction beyond a reasonable doubt.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 11:47 pm to
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I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that the jury found him guilty of rape but then only recommended 8 years of probation for his punishment.


The defendant broke into loud crying when the verdict was read. For right or for wrong, I'm sure that moved the jury.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
59932 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 11:52 pm to
quote:

The defendant broke into loud crying when the verdict was read. For right or for wrong, I'm sure that moved the jury.


frick me I really hope that isnt why they didnt want to give him any jail time.

I really really hope they were just ignorant of what they were doing.
Posted by BeYou
DFW
Member since Oct 2012
6036 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 12:00 am to
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Wow, that's light. Isn't rape sentencing usually done by the jury?


The jury recommended 8 years of probation. the judge made it a tougher sentence.
Posted by Felonious Punk
Member since Aug 2015
97 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 12:25 am to
From Baylor's President:

quote:

My dear friends in Baylor Nation: By God’s grace, we are living in a golden era at Baylor University. However, today we are filled with profound sadness. Yesterday, a former student-athlete was convicted for the sexual assault of another former student-athlete. Our hearts are broken for the victim who has been terribly harmed by this unspeakable tragedy. We also grieve for all those who have been touched by this human calamity, and for our beloved University, whose essential purpose and distinctive mission are to be guarded as the treasured legacy of our founders. Yesterday, as news of the trial’s verdict was announced, we immediately issued a public statement to make clear our solemn commitments: Acts of sexual violence contradict every value Baylor University upholds as a caring Christian community. In recent years we have joined university efforts nationally to prevent campus violence against women and sexual assault, to actively support survivors of sexual assault with compassion and care, and to take action against perpetrators. We have established and fully staffed a Title IX office that employs a Title IX Coordinator and two full-time investigators. Maintaining a safe and caring community is central to Baylor’s mission and at the heart of our commitment to our students, faculty and staff. You should know that we were fully prepared to send this statement regardless of the trial’s outcome. Sexual violence of any kind has no place at Baylor University. We do not need a jury verdict to inform a perspective of human dignity that is so germane to our Christian mission. After consulting with the Baylor Board of Regents, the Executive Council and our academic leadership, this afternoon I called for a comprehensive internal inquiry into the circumstances associated with this case and the conduct of the various offices involved. The inquiry will be led by Jeremy Counseller, Professor of Law at Baylor Law School, Baylor’s Faculty Athletics Representative to the Big 12 Conference and NCAA and a former Assistant District Attorney. Mr. Counseller will engage others in his review as he deems appropriate and will submit his report directly to me at the conclusion of his inquiry. After an analysis of his report, I will determine what additional action to take. Many of you have expressed your disappointment and anger over this tragic episode. My colleagues and I fully share your outrage. We work tirelessly to provide a distinctly Christian and safe educational experience for our students and to continually advance the good name and high calling of Baylor University. That a student would be grievously harmed and our University’s good name besmirched deeply saddens all who love Baylor and have a care for her, including those of us who are blessed to serve on this campus. In addition to the work already being undertaken by our Title IX Office, we are doing everything in our power to ensure that acts of sexual violence are not committed and that those who perpetrate them will find no shelter on our campus. Yours sincerely, Ken Starr President and Chancellor



Posted by 3rdRowTailgater
Tulsa
Member since Jul 2006
18814 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 12:32 am to
Ken Starr is a scumbag who asked that his friend only be sentenced to community service for molesting 5 girls when he was a teacher.

LINK
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148089 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 2:57 am to
as mentioned yesterday, ketch just wants to ask the hard questions that no one is

quote:

Geoff Ketchum @gkketch
Dear @CoachArtBriles, I would like to extend you the opportunity to come on my show today and defend your actions.


quote:

Geoff Ketchum @gkketch
. @CoachArtBriles currently, I view you very responsible for what played out in that courtroom this week.


quote:

Geoff Ketchum @gkketch
There better some damn cross-examination in this Briles deal from the media. Good God.


quote:

Geoff Ketchum @gkketch
Shame on all of the media from the state of Texas today that ignores the seriousness of what's happening in Waco.


quote:

Geoff Ketchum @gkketch
Hey @CoachArtBriles, how many violent abusers have you allowed into your programs over the years based on lack of homework on your part?



sorry art. ketch is on the case. youre fricked
This post was edited on 8/22/15 at 2:58 am
Posted by BeYou
DFW
Member since Oct 2012
6036 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 3:50 am to
Art ain't going anywhere. Ketch will be mad when we beat them again this year. He needs to just stick to conference realignment talk.

Art provided his side and clarified his comments from this morning. Said that Petersen approached Briles (which agrees with what Petersen said) mentioning the possibility of Sam transferring. That he needed to be close from home and that he had been battling depression. Also mentioned a rocky relationship with his then girlfriend but never mentioned any physical violence between the two.

Hard to believe Petersen would knowingly go to Briles and try to place a kid with a violent history.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9734 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 5:35 am to
Athletes get off light, judge should be tarred and feathered
This post was edited on 8/22/15 at 5:36 am
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16878 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 6:58 am to
Exactly, and the compliance transcript posted a few pages earlier that Boise sent to BU had no warnings either.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
31826 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 9:05 am to
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You should know that we were fully prepared to send this statement regardless of the trial’s outcome.

bullshite

That rapist was still on the team yesterday until the announcement of the guilty verdict
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 9:06 am to
Anyone calling for Art's head is an idiot.
Posted by BaylorTiger
Member since Nov 2006
2083 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 11:10 am to
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But Baylor's claim that they investigated this and found nothing lacks basic credulity in the face of the indictment, much less conviction beyond a reasonabl


This entire event is a terrible tragedy that should never ever happen to anyone and the human aspect of it is first and foremost the most important and disheartening component. It's sickening. Wether it involves a team you are passionate about or not does not matter. If any good can come from this I pray it does.

That being said, an indictment on domestic or sexual assault in Texas is ALWAYS taken to trial. In Texas, 100% of the time regardless of evidence if an accusation is made charges are filed and the DA pushes for trial. This is a fact.

The sentence recommended by a JURY was 8 months probation. I do not have any pertinent information but from a well educated standpoint the jury's decision of the least amount of punishment possible is most likely due from lack of evidence.

There is no excuse for how the Baylor IX investigators handled this case. Wether they also came to the same decision as the jury, with far less evidence, is irrelevant. Procedures and common sense should have been prevalent to address any accusations regardless of the findings of an investigation.

From everything I've read, Baylor conpartmentized the entire process due to privacy issues, legal issues and information availability issues. For us, this is any easy attack in hindsight on their process.

If anything good can come from something so terrible it will be bringing to the forefront how issues and accusations are handled. At this time the question remains how inept the internal investigation was given they have no legal powers or right to any documents and information requested in the legal trial and why the accusation lead to no environmental changes for the victim. There are no questions about how the BU football team handled their role in this but by all means please keep interneting. This is off season and to many of you a distant matter that should have wild speculation and rumor mongering regardless of the actual tragedy that occurred.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Member since Oct 2014
45194 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 12:05 pm to
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Exactly, and the compliance transcript posted a few pages earlier that Boise sent to BU had no warnings either.


Yup. I'm finished listening to these butthurt individuals bitch because Baylor isn't supposed to be good. They'll do anything to be better than we are now. I won't lie, I've been having doubts about the program for the last day, but that form that Boise sent to Baylor about Sam U cleared it all up for me. They didn't disclose it. It doesn't appear like Peterson fricked that up though. Likely just some secretary.

This post was edited on 8/22/15 at 12:06 pm
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