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Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:11 pm to The Boat
but kicks and punts are completely different from advancing the ball forward and have their own completely different set of rules
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:12 pm to WestCoastAg
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so why do we not change every single rule with regards to the ball and the endzone? why are incompletions into the endzone not considered a change in possession like fumbles are? if endzones are so humongously different, why do we only completely change the rules to the game in one certain circumstance?
Lol, on that note, good night man. Until next time this happens
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:13 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
that is literally what you are saying is ok and makes sense
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:14 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Your argument is "rules are rules bro"
Would you not agree that there are dumb rules in everything in life? Should we never complain about them?
Would you not agree that there are dumb rules in everything in life? Should we never complain about them?
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:15 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
quote:
Wait so there are zones at the ends of the field that have different rules?
Yes, and they all make sense and make it possible for the game to exist except one really random, stupid one.
There is already a built-in benefit if the defense actually recovers the ball in the endzone (possession plus ball at the 20). Gaining possession when you let the other team march it down to your goal line and don't even recover the ball is silly.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:17 pm to GRTiger
Yeah it’s a terrible rule.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:19 pm to WestCoastAg
and further more, im confused as to why you think that is ridiculous. you mean to tell me that you cant just willy nilly alter the fundamental rules of football because the endzone is involved? oh really? tell me more
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:19 pm to GRTiger
The end zone belongs to the defense. If you fumble the ball in their end zone and don’t recover it, it is theirs. If you possess the ball and advance into it, you score, but again, the ball is now theirs. The rule is consistent and makes sense.
The argument is not that rules are rules and everything is correct. The argument is that within the framework of the game, that endzone belongs to the defense. This is very clear. The end zone has its own set of rules not because it is inconsistent, but because it is a different area of the field and the most important area of the field.
How come a foul in the box in Soccer is a penalty kick and not just a free kick like the rest of the field? The box is treated differently becausd it is the most important area on the field and has different rules apply to it. This analogy is far from perfect, but is used to illustrate that other games have different rules for different areas of the field.
The argument is not that rules are rules and everything is correct. The argument is that within the framework of the game, that endzone belongs to the defense. This is very clear. The end zone has its own set of rules not because it is inconsistent, but because it is a different area of the field and the most important area of the field.
How come a foul in the box in Soccer is a penalty kick and not just a free kick like the rest of the field? The box is treated differently becausd it is the most important area on the field and has different rules apply to it. This analogy is far from perfect, but is used to illustrate that other games have different rules for different areas of the field.
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:21 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
quote:and every single one of those rules is consistent with the rules on possession and advancement of the ball.....except for this one
The end zone has its own set of rules not because it is inconsistent, but because it is a different area of the field and the most important area of the field.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:22 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
So you think it makes more sense to adhere to your arcane endzone rules than follow what happens anywhere else on a fumble?
Aight
Aight
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:22 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
quote:
How come a foul in the box in Soccer is a penalty kick and not just a free kick like the rest of the field? The box is treated differently becausd it is the most important area on the field and has different rules apply to it. This analogy is far from perfect, but is used to illustrate that other games have different rules for different areas of the field.
That's a benefit to the offense that has advanced the ball into the defense's key area.
The fumble rule would be like giving team A a PK if the forward on team B tackled the defender of team A in team A's box.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:26 pm to Sun God
quote:Yes.
So you think it makes more sense to adhere to your arcane endzone rules than follow what happens anywhere else on a fumble?
Aight
Gain 11 from the 50, keep possession and score no points.
Gain 11 from the 10, lose possession and score 6 or more points.
OMG why’s that different?!?!?!
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:26 pm to WestCoastAg
Sean Payton got cute and it bit him the arse once again
You give it to Ingram there and if close enough do the Brees jump on 4th down or kick a FG. Not give it to a WR who apparently can't get open because we have 1 WR and then let him fumble.
You give it to Ingram there and if close enough do the Brees jump on 4th down or kick a FG. Not give it to a WR who apparently can't get open because we have 1 WR and then let him fumble.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:27 pm to xiv
quote:it is amazing that so many people think this is a legitimate point
Gain 11 from the 50, keep possession and score no points.
Gain 11 from the 10, lose possession and score 6 or more points.
OMG why’s that different?!?!?!
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:27 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:My end zone. My ball.
it is amazing that so many people think this is a legitimate point
You can make the points when you take the ball from me
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:28 pm to xiv
On the 50 the ball is spotted where it's fumbled
On your second example it's a touchback
Thanks for proving WCAs point
On your second example it's a touchback
Thanks for proving WCAs point
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:32 pm to WestCoastAg
The guy who is a fan of a team that was recently in the Big 12 can only empathize with the offense and wants to change perfectly good rules so the offense can score more points. I'm shocked.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:33 pm to Sun God
quote:I say this earnestly: if you think this is a good point and think that the fumble touchback rule is a nonsensical rule, you don’t understand sports and are not a man.
On the 50 the ball is spotted where it's fumbled
You people are like the few girlfriends I’ve tried to explain an intentional safety to. “But that GIVES them points? That don’t make no since!”
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:36 pm to xiv
So baws should just start accidentally let the ball go out of bounds forward when they're being tackled?
That makes perfect "since"
That makes perfect "since"
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