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re: We can admit it was more Brady than bill now right?

Posted on 9/23/23 at 2:58 am to
Posted by Heinrich H
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 9/23/23 at 2:58 am to
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theunknownknight
extremely dumb.
This post was edited on 9/23/23 at 2:59 am
Posted by VA LSU fan
Virginia
Member since Dec 2007
8913 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 5:45 am to
Did Brady play defense?

Here is the breakdown of great QB's in their prime during Brady's time and their defense rankings

Brady - 7.67
Manning - 14.59
Rodgers - 14.55
Brees - 26.47

35+ players contribute to every win. The qb can have the biggest impact, but is at most 25%
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
6197 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 6:47 am to
Lol how so? Tampa bay had a top 5 defense as well.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5684 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 7:42 am to
I will say three things in defense of Belichick, even though I would agree that Brady was a bigger part of the overall success.

1. He did draft Brady.
2. He did stick with Brady early when Bledsoe returned.
3. 2000-2020 was right in the heart of Belichick’s prime age as a coach. He was in his 40s pre-Brady and 70s post-Brady.

The NFL has become such a QB-driven league that it’s difficult to win Super Bowls without a great one, and a head coach getting a great one is mostly luck. You have to be sitting with a high draft pick, have a diamond in the rough fall to you (like Brady), or be in position to pay an established star free agent that everyone already knows is a star. Coaches and general managers only have so much control over that.
This post was edited on 9/23/23 at 7:45 am
Posted by BigD43
Member since Jun 2016
1433 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 7:46 am to
They probably wouldnt have all six rings if they didnt cheat and the cheating was mostly Belichick.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
82662 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 7:48 am to
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He did draft Brady.


With help of Bobby Grier
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Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111367 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 7:49 am to
quote:

Here is the breakdown of great QB's in their prime during Brady's time and their defense rankings

quote:

Brady - 7.67

quote:

Brees - 26.47
This board calls that Mississippi River sized gap in defenses “the IT factor”
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60916 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 9:40 am to
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This is a myth. Brady won super bowls with like 2 or 3 pro bowlers tops on his team and dante Hightower was the best player on D.


Brady played with TWICE as many pro-bowlers than Peyton Manning. That’s an actual fact. I don’t know where the myth started that Brady didn’t have pro-bowlers. The dude holds the record for most pro-bowl teammates in history,
Posted by selfgen
youngsville
Member since Aug 2006
1197 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 10:04 am to
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he could of won super bowls for plenty of coaches.


Just so you know, it’s not “could of” ;
It’s “could’ve” or “could have”.
“could of” makes no sense.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 6:58 pm to
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An average to good QB being carried by his defense

I don’t know any serious sports fans who will say Brady was great when he came into the league.

Example:

His final EIGHT games of the 2001 season

3 TDS
6 INTS

He had ONE TD in the playoffs

And they won the SB because the defense shut down the Greatest Show of Turf

MUH BRADY!

We were talking about the SB against the Panthers. Try and keep up.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5895 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 8:13 pm to
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The NFL has become such a QB-driven league that it’s difficult to win Super Bowls without a great one, and a head coach getting a great one is mostly luck. You have to be sitting with a high draft pick, have a diamond in the rough fall to you (like Brady), or be in position to pay an established star free agent that everyone already knows is a star. Coaches and general managers only have so much control over that.


Agree with all that. But mostly just want to post and say Mike Tomlin has never had a losing season. Ever.
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