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Hawgnsincebirth55
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We can admit it was more Brady than bill now right?

And it’s not really close. I’d say 65% Brady 35% bill.


Dubosed
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re: We can admit it was more Brady than bill now right?
How many times we gonna do this thread?


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lsuguy84
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VermilionTiger
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re: We can admit it was more Brady than bill now right?
On a Friday? You’re doing this on a Friday?

Hopefully no one entertains this stupid ESPN like thread


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JerryTheKingBawler
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re: We can admit it was more Brady than bill now right?
Good QBs need good coaches.
Good coaches need good QBs.
Good QBs need good lines.
Good QBs and good coaches need good defenses.
Good QBs and good coaches need good special teams.
Good QBs and good coaches need good luck..

It's never as simple as you're all trying to make it.


shel311
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re: We can admit it was more Brady than bill now right?
You could have admitted that anytime over the past 20 years.


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nicholastiger
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re: We can admit it was more Brady than bill now right?
So far you could make same case for Sean Payton?
What has he done without Brees?
Not to mention some of the terrible defenses he oversaw.


htran90
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re: We can admit it was more Brady than bill now right?
some of yal are insufferable.

Brady had a 3 year stretch from 2012-2014 where he put up some not-elite numbers, very kirk cousins esque
- average passing yards
- high volumes
- shite OL
- 2 solid receivers (gronk & welker)

and everyone thought his career was on a downhill slide.


TigerMan327
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re: We can admit it was more Brady than bill now right?
Brady went his entire career with elite defenses. Rodgers, Manning, Brees only had them a handful of times.

Any of the three quarterbacks mentioned above would have had multiple super bowls with Brady’s teams. Brady on the other hand would not have multiple on their teams.

Brady is GOAT. But without Bill he’s probably just a borderline top 5 QB


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shel311
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re: We can admit it was more Brady than bill now right?
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So far you could make same case for Sean Payton?
What has he done without Brees?
Check Sean Payton's record without Brees, then check Belichick's record without Brady.


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Tigertown in ATL
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re: We can admit it was more Brady than bill now right?
Based on the Patriots record when the opponent scores more than 24, I don’t think it’s a much Brady as I would have thought.


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SteelerBravesDawg
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Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
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re: We can admit it was more Brady than bill now right?
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Brady went his entire career with elite defenses. Rodgers, Manning, Brees only had them a handful of times.


So? Brady should not be faulted because the defense played much harder for him knowing they are probably going to win if they give him the ball back


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Heinrich H
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re: We can admit it was more Brady than bill now right?
It's not debatable.


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Anfield Road
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re: We can admit it was more Brady than bill now right?
First two Super Bowls were Bill's. Last 4 were Tom's. Brady was just a game manager for the first two Super Bowls and didn't become elite until the 3rd one.
This post was edited on 9/22 at 4:10 pm


DownSouthCrawfish
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re: We can admit it was more Brady than bill now right?
Brady didn’t coach defense


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re: We can admit it was more Brady than bill now right?
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First two Super Bowls were Bill's. Last 4 were Tom's. Brady was just a game manager for the first two Super Bowls and didn't become elite until the 3rd one.

Brady threw over 350 yards and 3 TDs against the Panthers.


Johnny Roastbeef
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re: We can admit it was more Brady than bill now right?
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So far you could make same case for Sean Payton? What has he done without Brees?


5-0 with Bridgewater
9-8 with Winston, Taysom, Trevor Simeon and Ian Book


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lsufanva
LSU Fan
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Member since Aug 2009
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re: We can admit it was more Brady than bill now right?
That Tampa title ruins your argument.
I'm a Peyton guy but he had considerably better offensive talent throughout his career than Brady in a league built around QBs and offenses.
I'm a Saints guy, Brees had better talent around him than Brady.
Rodgers is just overrated. Couldn't win big games.
Any argument in the world can be made in football except that Tom Brady isnt the goat. He's got more titles individually than any franchise in history. Ifs aren't an argument. They are excuses.


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