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Wayoff P: It was all Doc Rivers's fault.

Posted on 12/4/20 at 10:31 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 12/4/20 at 10:31 am
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paul george on all the smoke pod: “doc used me like a ray allen or jj redick, all pin downs. i can do that but it’s not my game. i need some mixes of pnr’s, some post ups, just different touches.”


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pg on blowing a 3-1 lead: “during that whole process, we never worked on adjustments. we never worked on what to do differently. we had the same shite happen over and over again. the conversation was ‘were aight,’ but it should’ve been ‘nah we needa change this.’


This post was edited on 12/4/20 at 10:32 am
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 12/4/20 at 10:36 am to
I mean hes not really wrong. He definitely choked

But it was Rivers via Harrell that blew it. Hence why both are gone
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/4/20 at 10:36 am to
Everyone from the coaching staff to the players are to blame for their lackluster finish. PG should take on a lot of that blame, but he isn't necessarily wrong with what he is saying .
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/4/20 at 10:36 am to
Doc Rivers sucks, I think everyone knows this. He’s good at managing egos and is a players coach and sometimes that’s all you need in the NBA, but the X’s and O’s...ehh.

Paul George is a punk and should take the majority of the blame though. It’s always the ones that are mostly to blame passing off blame to others.
This post was edited on 12/4/20 at 10:38 am
Posted by 21JumpStreet
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Posted on 12/4/20 at 10:44 am to
The entire team is to blame They are broken.
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 12/4/20 at 10:45 am to
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But it was Rivers via Harrell that blew it. Hence why both are gone


Interesting you keep doing this when Harrell scored 20 points on 7/10 shooting in game 7 and was -8, while Kawhi was a game low -21 and Wayoff P was -20

Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/4/20 at 10:46 am to
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paul george on all the smoke pod: “doc used me like a ray allen or jj redick, all pin downs. i can do that but it’s not my game. i need some mixes of pnr’s, some post ups, just different touches.”

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I mean hes not really wrong
Except that he's really wrong.


Paul George's previous career high on pick and roll possessions was 25%. In his 1 season with Doc and the Clippers, it was a career high 33%. He had more P&Rs than he ever had his career, and he's complaining that he needed more P&Rs and that Doc used him like JJ Redick.
This post was edited on 12/4/20 at 10:47 am
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 12/4/20 at 10:48 am to
Denver's scored 50 pts more when Harrell was on the floor

Clippers scored 27 more pts when Zubac was on the floor

End of story. Doc is fool. Lakers traded one of the best young centers in the game for Muscala



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He had more P&Rs than he ever had his career, and he's complaining that he needed more P&Rs and that Doc used him like JJ Redick. ?


You dont pick and roll with Harrell. You do with Zubac
This post was edited on 12/4/20 at 10:49 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/4/20 at 10:49 am to
I know you have to defend him now that he's a Laker, but Harrell kind of stunk at times, especially in the bubble and playoffs.
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 12/4/20 at 10:55 am to
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Denver's scored 50 pts more when Harrell was on the floor

Clippers scored 27 more pts when Zubac was on the floor



You know next to nothing about stats and this is made up. Harrell had a bad series but he was -8 in 24 minutes of game 7 while Zubac was -10 in 14 minutes. Blaming role players for this when both of your star players dropped Harden-esque turds is why the Clippers choked

Imagine Lebron and AD both putting up a -21 in a game 7 lmfao
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:00 am to
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I know you have to defend him now that he's a Laker, but Harrell kind of stunk at times, especially in the bubble and playoffs.


You’re right but like I said the night Lakers signed him, they’re sacrificing some defense for much needed offense off the bench and I’m hoping being on the floor with AD can hide him at times.

I’m just lol’ing at the flailing going on blaming Doc, Harrell, Pat Bev etc when Kawhi and especially PG were downright atrocious at the end of that series.

If Lebron and AD choked away a series like that, you know as well as I do people wouldn’t be blaming it on the Danny Green and Dwight Howard types
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:08 am to
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You know next to nothing about stats and this is made up


Of course it is

Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59847 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:11 am to
Harrell took off what a month for his grandmothers funeral.

IT played the day after his sister died.

Harrell came into the bubble out of shape, played poorly. Gordon Hayward miss the birth of his son to play. Trez commitment was lacking to say the last.
Posted by David Ricky
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:14 am to
Ah so like I suspected, you get your basketball info from facebook style memes.


Interesting that the Clippers offensive rating was higher with Harrell on the floor compared to Zubac against Denver and their defensive rating was better too lol



Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59847 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:18 am to
That basketball reference off and def rating is an estimate based on the box score. It is different from on/off.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:19 am to
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against Denver and their defensive rating was better too lol


Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59847 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:19 am to
Harrell was -28 on off in the playoffs.

Zubac was +28
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
19580 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:21 am to
Pandemic P needs to stfu

He and Leonard are divas

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Some of those perks included:
• Leonard and George were the only players to have their own personal security guards and trainers.
• Leonard and George had power over the team's practice and travel schedule, leading teammates to believe Leonard canceled multiple practices.
• Leonard was allowed to live in San Diego and commute from there, which often made him late for team flights.
• Leonard and George typically didn't speak to the media until at least 45 minutes after games concluded, under the guise of postgame treatment or workouts. This usually resulted in their teammates speaking with the media first, and for longer, essentially becoming the public voices of the team.
• Teammates also believed that Leonard and George were able to pick and choose when they played. Not only did they sit out games entirely, but also at times they accepted or declined playing time in the moment. 



Doc Rivers wasn't airballing shots and talking about being depressed while making $30+ mil and getting served steak and lobster every night in a hotel that was paid for during a time when lots of people are losing their livelihoods. No sympathy from me
This post was edited on 12/4/20 at 2:36 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:25 am to
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Harrell was -28 on off in the playoffs.

Zubac was +28


Lol at Ricky

Look at game 5. Frick

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Nikola Jokic is not Boban’s size — no one is — but he is tall enough and too skilled for Harrell to defend effectively.

The two shared the court for just over eight minutes in Game 5. During that time, the Nuggets outscored the Clippers by 16 points. For context, they only won the game by five.

Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:26 am to
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I mean hes not really wrong. He definitely choked



George is totally in the wrong, and totally choked.

Kawhi learned a costly lesson.

He should’ve gone to Miami.
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