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re: VIDEO: Tony Stewart hits opposing driver; driver has died according to reports

Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:47 am to
Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
2904 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:47 am to
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According to Greg Zipadelli, the manager of his Stewart-Haas Racing team, Stewart plans to race in the NASCAR event at Watkins Glen scheduled to begin at approximately 1:19 p.m. Zipadelli said of the decision: "we're business as usual today."
my goodness. whatever arguments we're having about who is and isn't at fault, characterizing any of this as "business as usual" seems ghoulish.
Posted by geauxtigs99
NY
Member since Dec 2005
1280 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:48 am to
Cautions on a pavement track under control of nascar safety personnel are night and day different from small local dirt tracks with volunteer safety personnel. NASCAR guys point throw helmets flip guys off all the time - After safety guys are there and caution has slowed cars and pace car is out. You stay in your car at dirt tracks. Unless you are hurt or they have to wrecker you car, you stay in your car on dirt tracks they tow you back to the pits.
Posted by Make It Rayne
Rayne
Member since Sep 2009
2099 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:48 am to
You could hear him hit the throttle when he plows that guy. If that is not murder, I don't know what is.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88021 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:48 am to
Oh look. Standing still. Bright daylight. Spotters. Cars completely down to caution speed. Totally the same!
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 9:49 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182573 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:48 am to
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Literally from yesterday...



He is 15 feet from the closest car and standing still though. Not even close to the same thing as what Ward was doing.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
37180 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:48 am to
Holy shite
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36766 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:48 am to
So let's not exaggerate and say that this guy literally jumped in front of Stewarts car. He was on the track but he didn't jump in front of the car.



Bonus: in that video posted on the previous page, TS got out f his car to confront another driver on the track
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:48 am to
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If that is not murder, I don't know what is.
Then you
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don't know what is.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118252 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:49 am to
I just watched it. He definitely throttled into the guy.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88021 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:50 am to
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So let's not exaggerate and say that this guy literally jumped in front of Stewarts car
He wasn't trying to avoid it, either. He was moving down the track towards the cars
Posted by RebelOP
Misty Mountain Top
Member since Jun 2013
12505 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:50 am to
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I just watched it. He definitely throttled into the guy.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:50 am to
Standing back next to the accident crew giving the "WTF?" gesture with your hands =/= running into the paths of oncoming cars.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128849 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:50 am to
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Geez...some of you people just want him to be the a-hole. He can't win no matter what he does from here on out or whatever evidence vindicating him comes to light.

He planned on racing last night. He knew the guy was dead last night. Nothing has changed since then. So, it seems logical that someone else made the decision for him.
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15603 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:51 am to
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And the guy is 10 yards from the racing groove. Cars aren't having to dodge him.


The point was guys get out of their car in NASCAR events too. I know you watch, are you saying drivers never get closer when confronting on the track? If so, you missed some races. Drivers have gotten to windows on the track.

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Confronting a driver under caution in a NASCAR sanctioned event is a far different animal than doing it during the cool down laps of a sprint car event.

Neither is advisable, but the latter is fat more perilous due to the type of machines they're running.


Of course it is. BUT it happens in NASCAR too. And I bet NASCAR comes down harder on drivers for doing it now.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36766 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:51 am to
So are we still going to say no Nascar drivers get out on the track?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:51 am to
I don't get this pissing match about how often drivers walk onto a live track.

It really doesn't matter how often it happens, every time someone other than emergency crew walks/runs onto a live track it's idiotic. It doesn't absolve the dead kid (nor anyone else who does it) from mitigating his risk of sustaining serious bodily harm.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 9:52 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182573 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:51 am to
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So, it seems logical that someone else made the decision for him.



Because no one in human history has changed their mind on their own.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:51 am to
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I don't get this pissing match about how often drivers walk onto a live track.
Me either. I don't see the relevance.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88021 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:51 am to
Link to where I said that?
Posted by geauxtigs99
NY
Member since Dec 2005
1280 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:51 am to
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Posted byYou could hear him hit the throttle when he plows that guy. If that is not murder, I don't know what is.


And someone else who knows nothing about sprint cars on a dirt track.
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