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re: Using the NCAA FCS/D2/D3 Model for FBS playoff
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:10 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:10 pm to TomRollTideRitter
It is still do or die. Because if you lose a game, you have even less of a chance to make the playoffs.
For example, in today's system Mississippi St has absolutely 0 shot at making the playoffs, even if they won out and upsets galore happened. Thus, this Saturday's game at Bama will not be interesting at all... But in a larger playoff, a team like Mississippi St still has even more of an incentive to win because they are playing for a chance to lengthen their season. So you best believe they would play their guts out this Saturday.
For example, in today's system Mississippi St has absolutely 0 shot at making the playoffs, even if they won out and upsets galore happened. Thus, this Saturday's game at Bama will not be interesting at all... But in a larger playoff, a team like Mississippi St still has even more of an incentive to win because they are playing for a chance to lengthen their season. So you best believe they would play their guts out this Saturday.
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:10 pm to sms151t
What needs to happen is there to be 2 sets of playoffs. One for the big conferences, one for the smaller ones. I would have at least a passing interest in watching UCF v. Boise State, Troy vs. FAU, e.g.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:10 pm to sms151t
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So a team that wins their conference should not have a chance to win a national championship?
Depends.
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You are being retarded again, but it is expected of you.
I'm OK with this statement coming from you, especially when combined with your posts in this thread.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:10 pm to TomRollTideRitter
If the committee deems them good enough then they get in. They also rewarded the winner of the conference Alabama was in.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:12 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
No team is guaranteed a spot unless they win their conference championship. It would be extremely rare for a 3-4 loss team be guaranteed a spot.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:13 pm to sms151t
quote:some conferences are better than others
So a team that wins their conference should not have a chance to win a national championship?
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:13 pm to sms151t
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As for depth issue, you guys want to the best team to win it so this gives you the best team.
The BCS and current CFP system have crowned the best team far more often than the NFL playoffs and March Madness. Single elimination tournaments rarely yield the best team.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:14 pm to chalmetteowl
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some conferences are better than others
Agreed but the winner of a conference would get in. That is why you only guarantee the winner not number of spots from each conference.
This post was edited on 11/10/17 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:14 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Bama could go .500 in those games and also not get in. Unless you win the conference you are not guaranteed a shot in.
I guarantee you, Nick Saban would not take a week of and be like, you know guys, we don't have to win all of our games. So it's ok if we don't really try this Saturday at all.
I guarantee you, Nick Saban would not take a week of and be like, you know guys, we don't have to win all of our games. So it's ok if we don't really try this Saturday at all.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:15 pm to sms151t
quote:not when some can spend 1/10 of what the SEC does in football and still call themselves FBS
Agreed but the winner of a conference should get in.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:17 pm to chalmetteowl
Do we need to bring up Troy vs LSU in Death Valley?
Oh wait how about South Alabama vs Mississippi St
No even better Portland St vs Wazzu
Oh I almost forgot NDSU beat Iowa
Do I need to go on?
My point is people are so used to judging "conferences" in the football system instead of teams
You also remember the time Boise beat OU in the Fiesta, then they have beaten UGA in Atlanta, Oregon in Eugene and in Boise
Oh wait how about South Alabama vs Mississippi St
No even better Portland St vs Wazzu
Oh I almost forgot NDSU beat Iowa
Do I need to go on?
My point is people are so used to judging "conferences" in the football system instead of teams
You also remember the time Boise beat OU in the Fiesta, then they have beaten UGA in Atlanta, Oregon in Eugene and in Boise
This post was edited on 11/10/17 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:19 pm to QJenk
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No team is guaranteed a spot unless they win their conference championship. It would be extremely rare for a 3-4 loss team be guaranteed a spot.
Really? Last year Temple, Western Kentucky, Appalachian State, and San Diego State would have been guaranteed a spot.
This post was edited on 11/10/17 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:19 pm to TomRollTideRitter
The BCS system was absolutely terrible and the worst way of ever crowning a champion.
In the NFL playoffs what makes you say they do not crown the best team. Should they just give it to the team with the best record at the end of the regular season and call it a day?
In the NFL playoffs what makes you say they do not crown the best team. Should they just give it to the team with the best record at the end of the regular season and call it a day?
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:20 pm to sms151t
A statistically insignificant portion of the results proves nothing.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:21 pm to sms151t
A big upset on one Saturday does not mean any of those teams could compete week after week in a playoff. Not to mention all those P5 teams except '16 WASU are trash.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:22 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
For what its worth. I already stated I'm in favor of the G5 teams separating into their own system. They are 3-4 loss teams because they are forced to play teams in a completely different league than them.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:23 pm to QJenk
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They are 3-4 loss teams because they are forced to play teams in a completely different league than them.
Correct, and that's why this is a terrible idea.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:33 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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Ohio State is 1-2 against good teams this year. Why should that warrant a playoff spot?
I am not the one ranking Ohio State at 14 a committee is. Ask them why they think they should be ranked so highly.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:33 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
I'm in favor of expanding the 4-team playoffs though. Not to 24 teams though, as I believe that is a bit much. I know teams like NC ST and LSU( 
) would basically be guaranteed a loss in the 1st round as they are a tier below the top teams.
But I would be in favor of maybe 12 teams. Even at the bottom of that 12, those teams would have a reasonable shot to make some noise.
) would basically be guaranteed a loss in the 1st round as they are a tier below the top teams. But I would be in favor of maybe 12 teams. Even at the bottom of that 12, those teams would have a reasonable shot to make some noise.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:35 pm to sms151t
Which is why i would go to 16 and if a committee believes a team from one of those conference is good enough than ok. But i would do P5 champ and 11 others. Or a 12 team with P5 champ and 7 others. There are years those other conferences don't have a team that should be in the top 16 tourney. Than there are years when a team like Boise should.
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