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re: USC is back into the top 10 in recruiting!
Posted on 2/5/20 at 7:42 pm to bayoubengals88
Posted on 2/5/20 at 7:42 pm to bayoubengals88
Even Nebraska was in the top 20 and everyone said they'd never make it back.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 7:57 pm to ctiger69
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USC football is dead
quote:
mor·i·bund
adjective
(of a person) at the point of death.
Similar: some of these are great
dying
expiring
on one's deathbed
near death
near the end
at death's door <== fav
breathing one's last
fading/sinking fast
not long for this world
failing rapidly
on one's last legs
in extremis
with one foot in the grave
Opposite:
thriving
recovering
(of a thing) in terminal decline; lacking vitality or vigor.
This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 2/5/20 at 10:42 pm to bayoubengals88
But Clay is such a nice guy, family man, doesn't cheat on the recruiting (it shows) and a molder of men...(3 star molder.)
For the first time in history Oregon State has a better recruiting class.
That's like Vanderbilt having a better class than Alabama.
For the first time in history Oregon State has a better recruiting class.
That's like Vanderbilt having a better class than Alabama.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 10:44 pm to Ryan3232
Because the AP said they were.
And the AP was still giving out their Championship trophy to their #1 team...just like it had since 1936.
How difficult is that still to fathom all these years later?
And the AP was still giving out their Championship trophy to their #1 team...just like it had since 1936.
How difficult is that still to fathom all these years later?
Posted on 2/6/20 at 8:47 am to smash williams
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They have 13 total recruits and 1 of them is a kicker.
Yeah, but the kicker's name is Parker Lewis so he can't lose.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 9:07 am to AHM21
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The fact that they kept Helton to ensure a class this bad is mind boggling.
Michigan State doesn't even have a coach and most of the staff probably won't be retained AND they finished ahead of USC in recruiting.
That really is pretty bad.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 9:16 am to teke184
What is the reasoning schools would have not putting an emphasis on Athletics? I don’t understand why you wouldn’t want a balance of both athletics and academics.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 9:28 am to greenwave
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What is the reasoning schools would have not putting an emphasis on Athletics? I don’t understand why you wouldn’t want a balance of both athletics and academics.
It's happened at Notre Dame at times, most recently during the latter half of the Monk Malloy era.
It's typically driven by high-ranking academics and administrators that believe high-profile athletic programs, especially football, besmirch the reputation of the university on the academic and research side of things; in some circles of academia at institutions that consider themselves to be in or near the top tier, the quality of athletic programs is inversely correlated with the quality of the university's academics and reputation. They pounce on any mis-steps that the programs have and wiggle into the ears of university presidents and boards of directors.
Eventually (at least with what happened at ND, to some degree), big boys on the boards of directors will seize back control when they see things getting too far out of hand, try to right the ship, and tell the academics to stay in their lanes.
USC and Miami are going through it at the moment. Notre Dame has gone through it for sure. Stanford has gone through it. The Ivies and University of Chicago did and never recovered. I would imagine schools like Cal, Michigan, and UCLA have gone through it as well.
Right now, with USC especially, the problem is exacerbated for two reasons:
1. Many in academia see football as a dying and brutish sport
2. Because of (1), youth football participation has plummeted, especially in Southern California
USC is trying to climb and permanently stay in that top tier of American universities (they've been climbing for nearly a generation and are right on the cusp now); they've had lots of (non-football) scandals recently. They are in the abyss right now and are unsure what to do when the future of the sport is so uncertain, especially in their region of the country.
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 9:30 am
Posted on 2/6/20 at 9:31 am to greenwave
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What is the reasoning schools would have not putting an emphasis on Athletics? I don’t understand why you wouldn’t want a balance of both athletics and academics.
Looking at the bigger picture, USC doesn't need athletics. It is an excellent academic university.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 9:33 am to bayoubengals88
It seems like they've fallen back into the 90's USC teams.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 9:34 am to AbuTheMonkey
Good post. That's all true but USC problems has been the coaches they've hired.
Pat Haden was just a horrible AD for the football program. If a regular joe schmoe like me was aware of Sarks drinking problem, then Helton obviously knew as well. He just didn't care. Then he gives the job to a guy who should be coaching at the FCS level. He caused more harm than the sanctions ever could.
Pat Haden was just a horrible AD for the football program. If a regular joe schmoe like me was aware of Sarks drinking problem, then Helton obviously knew as well. He just didn't care. Then he gives the job to a guy who should be coaching at the FCS level. He caused more harm than the sanctions ever could.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 9:40 am to RLDSC FAN
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Good post. That's all true but USC problems has been the coaches they've hired.
Pat Haden was just a horrible AD for the football program. If a regular joe schmoe like me was aware of Sarks drinking problem, then Helton obviously knew as well. He just didn't care. Then he gives the job to a guy who should be coaching at the FCS level. He caused more harm than the sanctions ever could.
I would argue that Haden/Sark/Helton/et al problems flow from the top. An administration and BoD that truly cared wouldn't have allowed any of that in the first place or would have pulled the trigger much earlier when the program failed to live up to expectations.
We went through this with Wadsworth and White as AD's and Davie, Willingham, and Weis as coaches - ultimately, the blame lies with the administration's and BoD's. They're the ones getting paid to make these decisions.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 9:54 am to RLDSC FAN
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Cristobal is building something great up there.
With help of Nike $$$ and Nike gear.
That is the #1 reason
Posted on 2/6/20 at 10:05 am to SpartyGator
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Sad to see how they've fallen
On the contrary, frick USC. I find it hilarious to see how far they have fallen because of their own LA hubris. I hope the free fall continues personally, they are still to competitive for my liking.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 3:02 pm to bisonduck
To USC football fans: Good luck with Carol Folt as your Chancellor. She's an Ivy League train wreck who HATES college football.
UNC ran her off last January. Glad she was able to find work.
UNC ran her off last January. Glad she was able to find work.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 5:40 pm to bayoubengals88
I think Rivals has USC's class (of 13 signees) ranked just above FAU and just below Tulane and East Carolina.
Eventually the alumni will say enough is enough. Money talks. How soon that happens is a mystery at this point.
Eventually the alumni will say enough is enough. Money talks. How soon that happens is a mystery at this point.
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 5:41 pm
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