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re: Urban Meyer still respects the SEC.

Posted on 1/14/13 at 10:51 am to
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65527 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 10:51 am to
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Almost as stupid as the "muddy field" excuse.


I'll concede the "lack of motivation" point long before I'll concede the "muddy field" excuse. How was the muddy field not a factor? Just because both teams had to play on it doesn't make it equal.

If West Virginia plays Air Force, but the rules are stated that no forward passes are allowed, is it equal because neither team can pass? I would think that West Virginia's strength is taken away from them. Just like when LSU played Penn St, LSU's advantage was taken away from them by playing on the worst field in college bowl history. They might as well played that game on the beach.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65527 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 10:55 am to
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I love it. Posi-tigers defense for the team is calling them a bunch of quitters?


You might want to poll the Rant and ask if anybody considers Choupique19 a posi-tiger. I doubt you get many yea's.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
48005 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 11:47 am to
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Not mad at all. In fact, you SEC tards are always good for a few chuckles when I'm having a subpar day




Sort of like we chuckle when OSU plays an SEC team in a bowl game that matters.

Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61044 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 11:59 am to
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I'll concede the "lack of motivation" point long before I'll concede the "muddy field" excuse. How was the muddy field not a factor?


because...wait for it...





















BOTH TEAMS PLAYED ON THE SAME FIELD!



ETA: meaning if LSU's speed was affected...so was Penn State's. ergo, the advantage still exists either way.
This post was edited on 1/14/13 at 12:04 pm
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
40491 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 12:02 pm to
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I never said another conference was better. The SEC is the best conference, no question. But it's not even close to what you SEC tards play it out to be.


Coming from the big 10, when is the last time the big 10 even mattered?
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
40491 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 12:03 pm to
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piggilicious Arkansas and pathetic a match made in heaven..



FIFY
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
34975 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 12:09 pm to
You can bash the Big 10 all you want. I root against as much Big 10 teams as you do too, minus Ohio State. I don't do that rah rah conference shite, such a loser's mentality.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61044 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 12:20 pm to
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You can bash the Big 10 all you want. I root against as much Big 10 teams as you do too, minus Ohio State. I don't do that rah rah conference shite, such a loser's mentality.


The SEC: the conference of moral victories*



















*as long as Saban is at Alabama
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37310 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 12:21 pm to
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piggilicious Arkansas and pathetic a match made in heaven




you really don't think it's pathetic that a team doesn't care about their bowl- or that's their excuse for losing? i do, no matter who the team is... have a nice day.


Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
7414 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:16 pm to
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But it's not even close to what you SEC tards play it out to be.


We have a winner! Noone disputes its the best conference, but its how ridiculous obnoxious the fan base is about it... lack class.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22596 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:25 pm to
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I think the no motivation thing for lsu is a huge cop-out.


agreed... they struggled for the most part away from Tiger Stadium, with the exception of coming back and beating A&M... @AU, @UF, @Ark, CU (neutral).

The SEC was overrated in 2012... no way half of the top 10 are SEC schools, IMO... Teams like UGA, LSU, UF, USC have significant flaws that other SEC teams were not able to take advantage of.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:27 pm to
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:inb4thesecmadehisassquit:

Well...it's true.
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:30 pm to
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Secondly, what does every gambling site talk about being the most important thing when picking bowl games? Motivation. LSU had zero motivation for that Chick Fil A bowl. Clemson was playing to prove that they belong with the big boys.


I'm an LSU fan, and this is fricking stupid. You really think the LSU players didn't want to win that game? Please. They lost. It's not because they weren't unmotivated. They just got outplayed.
Posted by Mr. Tom Morrow
Cosmic Ray's Starlight Cafe
Member since Jun 2012
6847 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 3:03 am to
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I'll concede the "lack of motivation" point long before I'll concede the "muddy field" excuse. How was the muddy field not a factor? Just because both teams had to play on it doesn't make it equal.


Both teams dealt with the muddy field so how can you suggest PSU held some advantage? This argument has never made any sense.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61494 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 3:39 am to
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They just got outplayed.


more like Les gave it away by going away from his teams strengths.

2nd and 2 RUN THE BALL TWICE YOU WIN.

It reminded me of when fat Fran would have A&M 1st and goal on the 1 and instead of giving the ball to our 270 pound running back he'd throw 3 straight passes out of the shot gun and leave us with no points.

This post was edited on 1/16/13 at 3:42 am
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80559 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 4:24 am to
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Both teams dealt with the muddy field so how can you suggest PSU held some advantage? This argument has never made any sense.



They argue that since LSU is built around speed, and PSU was built around power(those PSU teams had some dynamic skills players though) that the field neutralized the speed advantage for LSU and gave Penn State an advantage since they were built more for that kind of game.

It's merely an excuse, nothing more.
Posted by theebuckeyenut
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Aug 2010
881 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 9:26 am to
Urban knows we are nowhere close but we are getting there...we will be the closest thing to an SEC calibur team up north, east and west
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 9:29 am to
The no motivation thing is choupique's crutch. Dudes a real maroon
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65527 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 9:40 am to
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Both teams dealt with the muddy field so how can you suggest PSU held some advantage? This argument has never made any sense.


If they made a rule before the game "no forward passes today". Does that make the game equal because neither team could throw a forward pass? What if they made a rule that all quarterbacks must throw opposite handed and all kickers must kick with the opposite foot? Would the game be fair because both teams had to do the same?


That field was an abomination. You couldn't decide anything on that field. Might as well played that game in the sand on the beach.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65527 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 9:50 am to
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The no motivation thing is choupique's crutch


Care to explain how USC lost to Ga. Tech?

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If you think that one team will be more motivated in a bowl game then bet on that team. Do not worry about the game?s point spread. Over the years point spreads are, many times, irrelevant. Try to find out who is more likely to come out the winner of the game based on which team will be more motivated.

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There is no bigger single factor in handicapping bowl games than motivation. That sounds like a bold statement, but it is absolutely true. The usual suspects are important – matchups, the caliber of the coaching, the talent levels, the schemes and so on – but none are as important as how ready and eager the teams are to be in the game, and how that has affected their preparations. Bowl games are entirely unique in North American sports because teams take off a long time – often more than a month – in the middle of their seasons to prepare for them. If a team lacks motivation then that time off can be brutal for them, and it can have a massive impact on the field.
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It's bowl season and that means motivation becomes a big factor in our handicap. One thing bettors must realize is a lot can happen from now until game day. Teams off disappointing regular seasons have plenty of time to lick their wounds whereas the excitement of reaching the postseason for others can easily wear off. Let's have a little fun and try and forecast the current state of mind of these bowl bound squads.
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